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Car Forum / Volvo Cars / June 2006

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headlight wiring question for 740 1987

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Jamie - 02 Jun 2006 03:56 GMT
Here's the question. I upgraded to e-codes, and did the following - but
still get a bulb failure light.

I used the passenger side wiring as the main run from the headlight
switch. Instead of just cutting off the driver's side, I bought extra
wire and ran a length from the high and low beam across the car and
spliced each wire respectively with it's match on the passenger side.

In simple terms, the two lows are now joined and the two highs are now
joined and each pair goes into the respective high/low relay.

Why do I still get a bulb failure light? I thought this would only come
on if I disconnected one side. I plan on just pulling the dash bulb -
but need to make sure that's OK
Jamie - 02 Jun 2006 04:05 GMT
I just remembered that my running lights and turn signals have exposed
wiring. Would this trigger the light on the dash?

> Here's the question. I upgraded to e-codes, and did the following - but
> still get a bulb failure light.
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> on if I disconnected one side. I plan on just pulling the dash bulb -
> but need to make sure that's OK
User - 02 Jun 2006 04:50 GMT
> Here's the question. I upgraded to e-codes, and did the following - but
> still get a bulb failure light.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> on if I disconnected one side. I plan on just pulling the dash bulb -
> but need to make sure that's OK

OK, let's assume that the green wire drives the low beam on the left and
the green white wire drives the low beam on the right. As long as the
two separate wire are running the lights then the current required for
each wire is approximately the same. Inside the bulb integrity relay the
current on each wire is compared by running it through each wire's own
personal coil that is wrapped around a normally open reed switch. Each
coil is wound in the opposite direction of the other. When the current
flow is close to identical the magnetic field induced by each coil is
cancelled by the other; the reed switch remains open and the bulb
failure indicator light stays unlit. In your system one coil is
unpowered and the switch closes showing a false positive.

The same thing applies for the two bulbs in parallel on the white-blue
wire on the left and the white-red wire on the right for the lows beams.
The relay is biased internally to compensate for the extra load from two
filaments.

Bob
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Jamie - 02 Jun 2006 04:57 GMT
Aha!  Makes perfect sense.

Gracias Amigo.

> > Here's the question. I upgraded to e-codes, and did the following - but
> > still get a bulb failure light.
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>
> Bob
James Sweet - 03 Jun 2006 05:25 GMT
> Here's the question. I upgraded to e-codes, and did the following - but
> still get a bulb failure light.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> on if I disconnected one side. I plan on just pulling the dash bulb -
> but need to make sure that's OK

Did the bulb failure light come on before you did the work? I wired mine
similarly and the indicator works properly, it's actually very nice to
have since it tells you if you have a rear light out. They can be
finicky when they get old though, dirty contacts in the taillights, bad
ground connection, and the solder joints within the sensor itself crack
sometimes.
Jamie - 05 Jun 2006 00:23 GMT
It did come on with no bulbs in the headlights and only the running and
turn lights in. The turn and running lights had bare wire. I applied
liquid electric tape, it still came on, so I pulled the bulb from the
dash.

> > Here's the question. I upgraded to e-codes, and did the following - but
> > still get a bulb failure light.
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> ground connection, and the solder joints within the sensor itself crack
> sometimes.
James Sweet - 05 Jun 2006 06:24 GMT
> It did come on with no bulbs in the headlights and only the running and
> turn lights in. The turn and running lights had bare wire. I applied
> liquid electric tape, it still came on, so I pulled the bulb from the
> dash.

The turn and running lights are not monitored by that sensor, if it
comes on with the headlights unplugged then the problem is with the
taillights. Bad grounds, dirty sockets, mismatched bulbs, those are the
usual problems.
Jamie - 05 Jun 2006 14:22 GMT
Interesting, thanks. I need to inspect those, check the brake light on
the back dash and see if I have an issue there.

Thanks!

> > It did come on with no bulbs in the headlights and only the running and
> > turn lights in. The turn and running lights had bare wire. I applied
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> taillights. Bad grounds, dirty sockets, mismatched bulbs, those are the
> usual problems.
 
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