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Car Forum / Volvo Cars / July 2006

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Detecting AC leaks S70

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M - 17 Jul 2006 05:17 GMT
The local shop dropped the bomb Friday and said my evaporator has a
sizable leak. Can someone tell me how they know this, especially since the
evaporator is hidden behind the dash? They couldn't find a leak in one of
the hoses, but they said there must be a leak since it's got oil on it.

Just curious ... also be/c they didn't charge me anything in the process.

Mike
Niels Bengaard - 17 Jul 2006 10:28 GMT
> The local shop dropped the bomb Friday and said my evaporator has a
> sizable leak. Can someone tell me how they know this, especially since the
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> Mike

You put in a fluoruscent liquid in the system and with uv light you then
detect where it´s coming out.
Alternatively a few workshops use a sniffer that can "smell" where the leak
is.
A sizable leak should be easy to spot, small leaks where it takes several
months for the coolant to dissaper can be treacky to find.
Can you see any green color in the fan outlets in the middle of the
dashboard if you look closely?

Niels
mikechiu@overlunch.com - 17 Jul 2006 16:10 GMT
I'll check for the green liquid later. I guess this isn't an expensive
thing since they did it for free in diagnosing my problems.

> > The local shop dropped the bomb Friday and said my evaporator has a
> > sizable leak. Can someone tell me how they know this, especially since the
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> Niels
Tim.. - 17 Jul 2006 18:43 GMT
I'll check for the green liquid later. I guess this isn't an expensive
thing since they did it for free in diagnosing my problems.

LOL! Think again. I'm afriad if the evap. has indeed got a leak, its a dash
out job on a LHD 70 series. :(

On RHD's we can do the evap swap by dismantling the glove box (no steering
column in the way)

Tim..
mchiu0324@yahoo.com - 17 Jul 2006 21:41 GMT
Oh, I was only referring to the putting the green dye into the system.
I am already dreading the 7-10 hour job and its drain on my pocketbook.

Mike

> I'll check for the green liquid later. I guess this isn't an expensive
> thing since they did it for free in diagnosing my problems.
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> Tim..
Mike F - 18 Jul 2006 12:48 GMT
> I'll check for the green liquid later. I guess this isn't an expensive
> thing since they did it for free in diagnosing my problems.
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> Tim..

I think the heater boxes are different too.  The evaporator is on the
passenger side on LHD cars, but to get the evaporator out, you have to
disassemble the heater box.  To disassemble the heater box, you have to
remove it from the car.  To remove it from the car, you have to remove
the dash first.  That's what causes the labour time.  
It's interesting that you say the evaporator in RHD heater boxes can be
removed without this process.

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Tim (remove obvious) - 19 Jul 2006 00:52 GMT
> > I'll check for the green liquid later. I guess this isn't an expensive
> > thing since they did it for free in diagnosing my problems.
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> It's interesting that you say the evaporator in RHD heater boxes can be
> removed without this process.

Yes- its a fairly simple nut n bolt R&R- thus-

Remove glove box as a complete unit.
Remove under dash panels / shelf both sides.
Peel back carpet both sides.
Remove radio, disconnect wiring.
Remove external amp (if fitted)
Clamp, or drain cooling system, remove heater hoses from bulkhad. Blow
coolant out of matrix.
Remove self tapping screws around bottom segment of heater casing.
Remove single bolt securing heater matrix feed pipes.
Lower and drop out heater matrix, remove from car.
Discharge a/c, disconnect lines, remove more self taping screws, drop evap.
down from heater box and remove.

Thats about it.

Tim..
Mike F - 19 Jul 2006 14:14 GMT
> Yes- its a fairly simple nut n bolt R&R- thus-
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> Tim..

Interesting - I wonder if the LHD heater box will come apart in the car
with the heater core removed...

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ramesh - 26 Jul 2006 03:13 GMT
I am tryimg to do  this exact same procedure on my Volvo S70.  I have
taken apart the whole dash as well as disconnected  the AC  lines, but
am unsable to get to the evaporator.  Looks like the whole climate
control unit (Huge set of pastic ducts etc), has  to be removed as one.

How do you remove the heater hoses in the engine compartment?  Is that
the only thing holding the entire climate control unit to the firewall.
(I have removed the large bolts on the top, as well as the AC pipes)

Thanks
Ramesh
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> > > I'll check for the green liquid later. I guess this isn't an expensive
> > > thing since they did it for free in diagnosing my problems.
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> Tim..
User - 26 Jul 2006 03:44 GMT
> I am tryimg to do  this exact same procedure on my Volvo S70.  I have
> taken apart the whole dash as well as disconnected  the AC  lines, but
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> > Remove radio, disconnect wiring.
> > Remove external amp (if fitted)
Pinch the plastic retainers on the heater pipes toward the hose and pull
the hoses away from the heater core. Catch the coolant in a pan below
the hoses. If you have some cap plugs or corks seal the heater core
pipes so that you don't drip antifreexe all over the inside of the car
while you wrestle the heater box out of there. Be careful of the servo
and bracket by the gas pedal. It takes a little fidgeting to work it out
with out breaking things.

Bob
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