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Car Forum / Volvo Cars / August 2006volvo 240 - 2 failures
We have had two failures on the car which seem to be linked. Firstly the rear wiper no longer works (need to fix as mot is due) and also the rear door (boot) no longer unlocks with central locking. It will unlock and lock manually with key. Seeing as both problems affect the boot area it seems reasonable to think the root cause of the problems are maybe the same thing. Have checked the fuse and it is okay. Can anyone advise please? > We have had two failures on the car which seem to be linked. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Have checked the fuse and it is okay. > Can anyone advise please? The wiring harnesses in the tailgate hinges have failed, it's a very common problem and an achiles heal of the car. Fortunately new harnesses are not expensive or particularly difficult to replace. There's one running through each hinge, if you open the gate you'll be able to see the break. > The wiring harnesses in the tailgate hinges have failed, it's a very > common problem and an achiles heal of the car. Fortunately new harnesses > are not expensive or particularly difficult to replace. There's one > running through each hinge, if you open the gate you'll be able to see the > break. Thanks very very much for the extremely quick reply. Most useful. I shall check it out. So this would cause both faults would it? >> The wiring harnesses in the tailgate hinges have failed, it's a very >> common problem and an achiles heal of the car. Fortunately new harnesses [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I shall check it out. > So this would cause both faults would it? And, probably your license plate light is out as well. They all go through the hinges... >>> The wiring harnesses in the tailgate hinges have failed, it's a very >>> common problem and an achiles heal of the car. Fortunately new harnesses [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > And, probably your license plate light is out as well. They all go through > the hinges... Thanks very much for the information. Anything else that could have failed? We have had a red light warning come on today, probably unrelated. >>>>The wiring harnesses in the tailgate hinges have failed, it's a very >>>>common problem and an achiles heal of the car. Fortunately new harnesses [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Thanks very much for the information. Anything else that could have failed? > We have had a red light warning come on today, probably unrelated. Those harnesses run everything in the tailgate, window wiper, power lock, license plate light, center brake light, and the rear window defroster. Not all the wires will break at once but once one breaks the rest are not far behind. > Those harnesses run everything in the tailgate, window wiper, power lock, > license plate light, center brake light, and the rear window defroster. > Not all the wires will break at once but once one breaks the rest are not > far behind. Thankyou James and Clay. Too hot to be fiddling with the car this week, so shall take a look at it at the weekend when its a bit cooler :-) Shall phone the local dealer and ask for prices for a new piece. >>Those harnesses run everything in the tailgate, window wiper, power lock, >>license plate light, center brake light, and the rear window defroster. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > shall take a look at it at the weekend when its a bit cooler :-) > Shall phone the local dealer and ask for prices for a new piece. Dealer is probably $$$, I'd check FCP Groton or alloemvolvoparts.com personally. Post back if you need help replacing, it's not too hard but a helper will be needed to remove the tailgate and you have to mark the hinge positions to make alignment easier. > Those harnesses run everything in the tailgate, window wiper, power lock, > license plate light, center brake light, and the rear window defroster. > Not all the wires will break at once but once one breaks the rest are not > far behind. Will we have to replace all the broken wires? that could be costly? >>Those harnesses run everything in the tailgate, window wiper, power lock, >>license plate light, center brake light, and the rear window defroster. >>Not all the wires will break at once but once one breaks the rest are not >>far behind. > > Will we have to replace all the broken wires? that could be costly? The wires are each part of a custom made harness, you just buy the two harnesses and they plug in at both ends. I think I paid about $45 for the pair last time I did one. >>>Those harnesses run everything in the tailgate, window wiper, power lock, >>>license plate light, center brake light, and the rear window defroster. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > harnesses and they plug in at both ends. I think I paid about $45 for the > pair last time I did one. Ok thanks so much for your help. I will let you know how it goes. >>> The wiring harnesses in the tailgate hinges have failed, it's a very >>> common problem and an achiles heal of the car. Fortunately new harnesses [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > And, probably your license plate light is out as well. They all go through > the hinges... The license plate light is still working, just checked :-) I had wiper and lock problem. It was the passenger side (in the US) ie right side harness. I still haven't replaced the driver side (left) as it was more work. Howard > >>> The wiring harnesses in the tailgate hinges have failed, it's a very > >>> common problem and an achiles heal of the car. Fortunately new harnesses [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > The license plate light is still working, just checked :-) Yeah I have the same problem and I traced it back to that area (hinges). I was not in handy with a new harness, but I found that you can pull some of of the wiring that is still protected and not broken through and place that in the hinge. I just spliced all of the connections together and then put them inside the tailgate. Now my rear wiper works! I spliced my defrost over as well but I wasn't sure if that works yet. Being summer and all I haven't had a chance to turn it on. :) > I had wiper and lock problem. It was the passenger side (in the US) ie right > side harness. I still haven't replaced the driver side (left) as it was more [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > > > The license plate light is still working, just checked :-) Not sure if you use eBay, but here it is. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Volvo-240-Wagon-Tailgate-Wiring-Harness-Left-and- Right_W0QQitemZ250007940427QQihZ015QQcategoryZ33647QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZ ViewItem > Yeah I have the same problem and I traced it back to that area > (hinges). I was not in handy with a new harness, but I found that you [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > > > > > The license plate light is still working, just checked :-) > Not sure if you use eBay, but here it is. > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Volvo-240-Wagon-Tailgate-Wiring-Harness-Left-and- Right_W0QQitemZ250007940427QQihZ015QQcategoryZ33647QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZ ViewItem Thanks. I am actually in the UK, but that picture gives me a good idea what we are looking for. >>> The wiring harnesses in the tailgate hinges have failed, it's a very >>> common problem and an achiles heal of the car. Fortunately new [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > And, probably your license plate light is out as well. They all go > through the hinges... btw... I'm going after the wiring in my tailgate too. John Law pointed out to me the other night that my license plate light doesn't work. Any pointers on how to get the hatch release off? The panel is popped loose all around but I can't see how to get it past the handle. http://forums.turbobricks.com/search.php?searchid=708363. >>>> The wiring harnesses in the tailgate hinges have failed, it's a very >>>> common problem and an achiles heal of the car. Fortunately new [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Any pointers on how to get the hatch release off? The panel is popped > loose all around but I can't see how to get it past the handle. It pops upward, it just press fits down onto a flange. > The wiring harnesses in the tailgate hinges have failed, it's a very > common problem and an achiles heal of the car. Fortunately new > harnesses are not expensive or particularly difficult to replace. > There's one running through each hinge, if you open the gate you'll > be able to see the break. Sorry to be so long getting back to you but my Dad has only just had the chance to look at the car. After hours of trying to work out how to get to the harnesses and failing to do so, he pulled the roof overlay down and just under the roof there was an unplugged cable. He plugged it back in and everything worked. It seems over the years the foam protection around the two plugs had worn away and they were loose. Perhaps going over a speed bump or something made them finally come unplugged from each other. Was just a case of plugging them back into each other and put some binding tape around to keep them in place. Thanks for your help anyway and to everyone else. If someone has a problem database they could add it to the database as something which might be an issue. |
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