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Car Forum / Volvo Cars / September 2006

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760T won't start

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Paul Hosking - 08 Sep 2006 06:35 GMT
the wife ran it down to empty on fuel, put a tin of fuel in and won't start
any ideas.

BTW thanks for help with the last problem fuel injection relay worked a
charm!!

Paul
Paul Hosking - 08 Sep 2006 07:54 GMT
Just to add to this,

it cranks, there is a spark (or at least it sure felt like it) the car is on
a slight angle, it sounds a bit strange when it cranks sort of loose or
free.

When I first went to start it, it ran for a little bit I thought I might
make it to the petrol station, well it got out the drive.

Paul

> the wife ran it down to empty on fuel, put a tin of fuel in and won't
> start any ideas.
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> Paul
Mike F - 08 Sep 2006 13:15 GMT
> Just to add to this,
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> > Paul

Undo the screw on the top of the timing belt cover, bend it back and
have a look at the belt.

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Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.

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zencraps@comcast.net - 08 Sep 2006 16:04 GMT
The easiest way to determine whether the timing belt has failed is to
remove the oil cap on top of the valve cover and look while someone
tries to start the car.

If you can see the cam turning over, the belt is not broke (although it
may have slipped or jumped a few teeth).
James Sweet - 08 Sep 2006 19:08 GMT
> the wife ran it down to empty on fuel, put a tin of fuel in and won't start
> any ideas.
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> Paul

How much fuel did you add? It's possible the pre-pump has failed,
without it the system will have trouble priming if it's been run dry.
Paul Hosking - 08 Sep 2006 22:21 GMT
Yes, when I noticed the free kind of cranking I did suspct the cam, I've
recently replaced the cam belt so I didn't think it would be broke so soon.

Anyway I checked the cam and it's still Rotating, don't know if it;s slipped
but adding more petrol would probably be the quickest fix I'II try that.

I put a 5 litre tin of petrol first off.

Paul

>> the wife ran it down to empty on fuel, put a tin of fuel in and won't
>> start any ideas.
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> How much fuel did you add? It's possible the pre-pump has failed, without
> it the system will have trouble priming if it's been run dry.
Michael Pardee - 09 Sep 2006 00:38 GMT
> the wife ran it down to empty on fuel, put a tin of fuel in and won't
> start any ideas.
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> Paul

Once our '85 765T ran dry, and the main pump failed. I've seen a couple
other mentions of it when the tank runs dry... maybe the stress of running
without gas can kill an old main pump? If you crank the car for a moment
(returning to the "run" position) and then listen to the main pump
underneath the car under the front left seat, you should hear it run for
five seconds.

Mike
Paul Hosking - 09 Sep 2006 02:20 GMT
OK, I've had the timing cover off, all seems OK there,

I removed a spark plug and there is compression.

I have seperated a union in the fuel line and there seems to be presure,

But as Mike suggested I listened, after cranking and there seems to be no
sound coming from the fuel pump,

I assume it's a fuel pump? any other way of testing to know for sure?

Paul

>> the wife ran it down to empty on fuel, put a tin of fuel in and won't
>> start any ideas.
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> Mike
zencraps@comcast.net - 09 Sep 2006 03:53 GMT
link to releated threads

http://brickboard.com/FIND/?q=fuel+pump&m=all&ps=20&o=0&ul=
Paul Hosking - 13 Sep 2006 02:30 GMT
looks like the pin that holds the cam chain to the crank has snapped and
it's not looking to good.

any chance of simple repair?

> the wife ran it down to empty on fuel, put a tin of fuel in and won't
> start any ideas.
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> Paul
James Sweet - 13 Sep 2006 04:04 GMT
> looks like the pin that holds the cam chain to the crank has snapped and
> it's not looking to good.
>
> any chance of simple repair?

Cam belt you mean? Or is this something else? I'd be really curious how
the key snapped without the belt breaking. Either way that's a
non-interference engine so if you can fix the broken piece there
shouldn't be any internal damage.
Paul Hosking - 13 Sep 2006 08:33 GMT
Are you sure it's a non-interference engine, ahh and yes cam belt!

>> looks like the pin that holds the cam chain to the crank has snapped and
>> it's not looking to good.
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> non-interference engine so if you can fix the broken piece there shouldn't
> be any internal damage.
Michael Pardee - 13 Sep 2006 23:58 GMT
> Are you sure it's a non-interference engine, ahh and yes cam belt!

Positive - it has been addressed at great length before. Once you get it
back together it should be fine.

Mike
 
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