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Car Forum / Volvo Cars / September 20061988 240 Steering Rack failure: P/S Pump as Well?
Our 240 has been showing signs of a dying steering rack for two years. Since we only use it as a spare car, we haven't been proactive about replacing it - especially because it has had to have brakes and an exhaust as well. Last month the rack died while my housemate was getting ready to drive the car. It dumped fluid in the driveway, and the pump was groaning. I refilled the reservoir (having not yet seen the massive leak), but even with fluid in it the pump makes *lots* of noise. Is this likely to be just air in the system, or do the pumps fail that quickly (maybe 5 minutes run time, at most) when deprived of fluid? It wasn't noisy before the rack went. And what is a decent price to have an indie shop replace both units with rebuilt parts? > Our 240 has been showing signs of a dying steering rack for two > years. Since we only use it as a spare car, we haven't been proactive [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > And what is a decent price to have an indie shop replace both units > with rebuilt parts? The pumps can be real noisy with air in the system, replace the rack or whatever else is leaking (have you checked the hoses and fittings?) and then go from there. A new steering rack is a few hundred bucks, not sure how much labor would cost but it shouldn't take more than an hour for a competent mechanic. >> Our 240 has been showing signs of a dying steering rack for two >> years. Since we only use it as a spare car, we haven't been proactive [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > how much labor would cost but it shouldn't take more than an hour for a > competent mechanic. The one estimate we got so far was for $800 for the rack, $1300 for both units. About 5 years ago I got an estimate of $700 for the rack. (It turned out to be just the steering U-joint back then.) We'll try a couple more shops. The parts are only about $300 plus core charges from NAPA. BTW, is this a ZF unit, or did they use different ones even in the same model year? >>> Our 240 has been showing signs of a dying steering rack for two >>> years. Since we only use it as a spare car, we haven't been proactive [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > BTW, is this a ZF unit, or did they use different ones even in the > same model year? Check out alloemvolvoparts.com and fcpgroton.com, you can probably pick up a rack for a bit less. >>>> Our 240 has been showing signs of a dying steering rack for two >>>> years. Since we only use it as a spare car, we haven't been [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > Check out alloemvolvoparts.com and fcpgroton.com, you can probably pick > up a rack for a bit less. The labor charge is the real killer, here. I can't do the job myself, and want to know what the low end would be for having a shop do it. I don't think it'll be $65 for labor.... ;-) > The labor charge is the real killer, here. I can't do the job > myself, and want to know what the low end would be for having a shop do > it. I don't think it'll be $65 for labor.... ;-) Well most shops won't want you to bring in your own part, labor will be whatever they tell you it'll be. It's really not a difficult job, but if you can't do it yourself you pretty much have to pay whatever they happen to charge. >> The labor charge is the real killer, here. I can't do the job >> myself, and want to know what the low end would be for having a shop [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > you can't do it yourself you pretty much have to pay whatever they > happen to charge. Let me try again. I was asking what people have paid for this job. I priced NAPA parts because it isn't hard to find shops here that use them. I'm hoping to establish what is "high", "low" and "reasonable" to pay for this job. I was also wondering if the ZF rack was the only one used in '88, or if others were as well. > Let me try again. I was asking what people have paid for this job. I > priced NAPA parts because it isn't hard to find shops here that use > them. I'm hoping to establish what is "high", "low" and "reasonable" to > pay for this job. I was also wondering if the ZF rack was the only one > used in '88, or if others were as well. 3 hour job excluding the wheelalignment, besides ZF Volvo used Camgear  Signature--- Marten >> Let me try again. I was asking what people have paid for this job. >> I priced NAPA parts because it isn't hard to find shops here that use [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > 3 hour job excluding the wheelalignment, besides ZF Volvo used Camgear Thanks. > >> The labor charge is the real killer, here. I can't do the job > >> myself, and want to know what the low end would be for having a shop [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > "reasonable" to pay for this job. I was also wondering if the ZF > rack was the only one used in '88, or if others were as well. This will be close to the price. Shop rate at shop you choose X 3 hours + online part cost X2. Most shops plan to make money on the parts they sell. They mark them up not just to add to profit but to cover their acquisition costs, ready availability from suppliers and the fact that they can cover their additional costs if the part acquired should be wrong part, fail or otherwise need to be replaced at shop expense. When you walk in with a part they not only don't make the markup they are really, really trusting that it is the correct part and that it came from a "trusted" supplier. I can understand that they won't work with parts you walk in with. I have been able to do this with one of my two Volvo's but only when the shop did not have ready access to the part. Hope this helps Howard |
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