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Bill - 05 Oct 2006 14:11 GMT Hi all, I have a '98 V70 2.4. It has been running great, but recently it has developed a slight stumble at idle. Hard to describe but it feels like the ignition dies for just a split second, a cylindar (or maybe two?) misfire, then everything is fine. It is very intermittant, only doing it may be once or twice in a trip. At road speed there is no noticable problems, and I get no codes.
I replaced the spark plugs and it doesn't feel as strong, but it is still there. I plan to run some injector cleaner through her today on the thought that it might be a sticking injector.
Any ideas as to what it might be, or how to isolate and identify the problem, or is this one for the pros?
Bill
Jabber - 05 Oct 2006 15:57 GMT Bill, No codes at all? Weird... The ECU should pick up any misbehaviour in your engine. Have you had the code upgrade done to your ETM? I know this is mostly to correct the CEL coming on but it might fix this as well. Has it been unusually damp in your area like it has been here in Ontario? I had a coil pack go bad a while back due to dampness. Covered under warranty thankfully. Let us know what you find out!
Jordan 1999 S70 Loaded!
> Hi all, > I have a '98 V70 2.4. It has been running great, but recently it has [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Bill Stephen Henning - 06 Oct 2006 01:00 GMT > I have a '98 V70 2.4. It has been running great, but recently it has > developed a slight stumble at idle. Hard to describe but it feels like [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Any ideas as to what it might be, or how to isolate and identify the > problem, or is this one for the pros? I had the same problem in a 2001 V70 and the following "recall" solved it for free.
There is a "service campaign" for the electronic throttle system (ETS) and electronic throttle module (ETM) where they actually put in a new program that ignores errors by the ETM. If they need to replace the ETM, it covers that. It is not techically a recall, but "VSC 155 service campaign".
Here is what the campaign covers:
"Electronic Throttle Module (ETM) failure may illuminate Electronic Throttle System (ETS) light or MIL. Symptoms may include, uneven engine idle, and/or "limp home mode" that could restrict vehicle speed to 10-30 miles per hour. Faults of the ETM are stored as DTCs in the ECM. If OBD II detects a fault that might increase emissions, the MIL is illuminated. Remedy: A software upgrade will be performed at the next service interval, and ETM warranty extended to 10 years or 200,000 miles, whichever comes first."
It basically covers S70, V70, V70 XC, C70, S80, and S60 from 1999 to 2002.
For more information check page 2 of:
http://www.epa.gov/otaq/cert/recall/2006recallreport4.pdf
Obviously the question is, does this cover your 1998 V70. I would check it out.
 Signature Cheers, Steve Henning in Reading, PA, USA Owned '67,'68,'71,'74,'79,'81,'87,'93,'95 & '01 Volvos. The '67,'74,'79,'87,'95 and '01 through European Delivery. http://home.earthlink.net/~rotarians/volvo.html
Bill - 06 Oct 2006 13:36 GMT Thanks for the feedback guys. I will check with the dealer re: the recall.
Regarding moisture, actually we are in our dryer season now, but in Florida, what does that mean? : ) Maybe I need to apply a moisture sealer to the cap and wires, or just replace them, but before I go too far with the parts changing, I would like to be better informed.
Another question. If the control module does detect a problem, does it always turn on a light on the dash, or does it just store it so that you have to read it out with an ODBII reader? When I said no codes, I actually meant no lights.
Bill
> > I have a '98 V70 2.4. It has been running great, but recently it has > > developed a slight stumble at idle. Hard to describe but it feels like [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > The '67,'74,'79,'87,'95 and '01 through European Delivery. > http://home.earthlink.net/~rotarians/volvo.html Stephen Henning - 06 Oct 2006 21:25 GMT > Regarding moisture, actually we are in our dryer season now, but in > Florida, what does that mean? : ) Maybe I need to apply a moisture > sealer to the cap and wires, or just replace them, but before I go too > far with the parts changing, I would like to be better informed. Usually a moisture problem shows up with trouble starting.
> Another question. If the control module does detect a problem, does it > always turn on a light on the dash, or does it just store it so that > you have to read it out with an ODBII reader? When I said no codes, I > actually meant no lights. When my engine was stumbling on idle, there never was a signal sent to the computer and no light came on. Other problems I had besides the idle stumbling were hesitation when trying to accelerate and the cruise control turning off.
Another possibility is the air flow mass meter, but the ETM (or TCM) fix is free, so I would try that first.
 Signature Cheers, Steve Henning in Reading, PA, USA Owned '67,'68,'71,'74,'79,'81,'87,'93,'95 & '01 Volvos. The '67,'74,'79,'87,'95 and '01 through European Delivery. http://home.earthlink.net/~rotarians/volvo.html
Big Dick - 07 Oct 2006 14:21 GMT 1998 and back Volvo's can not be programmed or upgraded. 1999 up all Volvo's can be reprogrammed or updated. At the age of your car, replace the ign, cap, ing rotor and plug wires. Use Volvo plugs only. Do not use Platinum plugs in any Volvo. Volvo engines run like crap on Plat. plugs. Use OEM or Bosch parts only. BD -------------
> Hi all, > I have a '98 V70 2.4. It has been running great, but recently it has [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Bill Bill - 10 Oct 2006 13:45 GMT I really appreciate that info. The plugs that I pulled were platinum. I will replace the rest of the ign parts next weekend. Thanks again for the great responses.
Bill
> 1998 and back Volvo's can not be programmed or upgraded. > 1999 up all Volvo's can be reprogrammed or updated. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > > > Bill Robert Christian - 11 Oct 2006 01:25 GMT >Hi all, >I have a '98 V70 2.4. It has been running great, but recently it has [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Bill My 1998 S 70 T 5 is doing the same thing. I have seen the recall and this model is not covered buy the recall. What if anything can I try to grt it back running "normal" again?
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