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Hours of labor - exhaust manifold gasket for a 1987 Volvo 740 Turbo

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ojgd - 23 Oct 2006 21:16 GMT
I was recently charged 11 (ELEVEN) hours of labor for changing the
exhaust manifold gasket on my 87 Volvo 740 Turbo.

They told me 3 studs broke, and that this is the kind of job that you
don't want to rush.

With 192,000 miles under my car's belt, I feel I was robbed.

The damage is done (i.e., I paid because I needed my car), but what do
you think about the 11 hours of labor for this job?

Thanks.

Best.
Glenn - 23 Oct 2006 21:57 GMT
> I was recently charged 11 (ELEVEN) hours of labor for changing the
> exhaust manifold gasket on my 87 Volvo 740 Turbo.
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>
> Best.

Who performed the repair for you A Volvo Dealer or a independent repair
shop. As a Volvo technician this sounds excessive even with three broken
studs
Glenn
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ojgd - 24 Oct 2006 02:53 GMT
Glenn,

The repair was performed by an independent repair shop (exhaust &
radiator specialists).

Thank you for replying.

> > I was recently charged 11 (ELEVEN) hours of labor for changing the
> > exhaust manifold gasket on my 87 Volvo 740 Turbo.
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> long as I live,
> nor should any American.
James Sweet - 24 Oct 2006 00:09 GMT
> I was recently charged 11 (ELEVEN) hours of labor for changing the
> exhaust manifold gasket on my 87 Volvo 740 Turbo.
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>
> Best.

If three studs broke I'm surprised it didn't take longer than that. With
no breakage it's an hour or two to replace the gaskets, but broken studs
are damn near impossible to get out without removing the head and even
then you have to be very careful not to damage the aluminum casting.
John Horner - 24 Oct 2006 06:59 GMT
> I was recently charged 11 (ELEVEN) hours of labor for changing the
> exhaust manifold gasket on my 87 Volvo 740 Turbo.

Now perhaps you will learn a valuable lesson.  Only take your Volvo to
someone who works on Volvos all the time.  They will know the issues and
tricks.  I cannot imagine an experienced Volvo tech spending 11 hours on
that job, but I can imagine someone who doesn't often work on Volvos
doing so.

John
mjc<DELETETHIS>13 - 24 Oct 2006 10:44 GMT
>> I was recently charged 11 (ELEVEN) hours of labor for changing the
>> exhaust manifold gasket on my 87 Volvo 740 Turbo.
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>
> John

   An equally important lesson is "never have work done without
an estimate." I don't hold them to a precise number unless I get
it in writing or they quote a precise amount, but if they say two
hours and try to charge for 5, they don't get it.
Andy Dingley <dingbat@codesmiths.com> - 24 Oct 2006 10:51 GMT
>     An equally important lesson is "never have work done without
> an estimate."

Yes, always have them tell you beforehand how many studs they plan on
breaking!  Maybe they usually do it by just breaking two studs, but
they saw you coming alone naively without an estimate, so they thought
they'd bill you for breaking another one. Robbers!
mjc<DELETETHIS>13 - 24 Oct 2006 10:54 GMT
>>    An equally important lesson is "never have work done without
>>an estimate."
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> they saw you coming alone naively without an estimate, so they thought
> they'd bill you for breaking another one. Robbers!

   I see that you somehow forgot to include the part where I
wrote that I don't hold them to exact figures when they give a
rough estimate. I'm sure it had nothing to do with that negating
your point.  ;-)
ojgd - 14 Nov 2006 04:43 GMT
Lesson learned.

> > I was recently charged 11 (ELEVEN) hours of labor for changing the
> > exhaust manifold gasket on my 87 Volvo 740 Turbo.
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>
> John
 
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