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Car Forum / Volvo Cars / January 2007850 wagon gas mileage
I have a 96 850 GLT non turbo wagon that I bought used a couple of monthe ago with 129,00 miles on it. I've been getting only about 15 or 16 miles per gallon driving conservitively in mostly local city type driving using 89 octane fuel. It also has a very strong exhaust odor so maybe it's wasting fuel. I don't have any service history on the car. I've replaced the air filter and spark plugs but not the ignition wires which seem to be in pretty good shape. I used the standard Bosch paltinum plugs. I bought a new distributor cap and rotor but didn't install them yet. Is this the mileage I should expect or is something wrong? Thanks, Bill In an earlier contribution to this discussion, > I have a 96 850 GLT non turbo wagon that I bought used a couple of > monthe ago with 129,00 miles on it. I've been getting only about 15 [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Bill That doesn't sound very good. I presume you're talking about US gallons. But 16 miles per US gallon is still less than 20 miles per 'real' (Imperial) gallon - which is pretty diabolical. I would get it thoroughly checked over.  SignatureCheers, Roger ______ Email address maintained for newsgroup use only, and not regularly monitored.. Messages sent to it may not be read for several weeks. PLEASE REPLY TO NEWSGROUP! > I have a 96 850 GLT non turbo wagon that I bought used a couple of > monthe ago with 129,00 miles on it. I've been getting only about 15 or > 16 miles per gallon... > > Is this the mileage I should expect or is something wrong? Like the man said, 'Nobody ever bought a Volvo for the fuel economy'. cheers, :-) Henry >> I have a 96 850 GLT non turbo wagon that I bought used a couple of >> monthe ago with 129,00 miles on it. I've been getting only about 15 or [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > cheers, :-) Our UK imperial S70 2.5 gets 32mpg or so *average*... Tim.. Our V70 non-turbo gets around 33 to 35 mpg on the highway, about 25 in straight city driving. > >> I have a 96 850 GLT non turbo wagon that I bought used a couple of > >> monthe ago with 129,00 miles on it. I've been getting only about 15 or [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Our UK imperial S70 2.5 gets 32mpg or so *average*... > Tim.. > I have a 96 850 GLT non turbo wagon that I bought used a couple of > monthe ago with 129,00 miles on it. I've been getting only about 15 or [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Bill You should get at least low to mid 20s around town, something is wrong. > I have a 96 850 GLT non turbo wagon that I bought used a couple of > monthe ago with 129,00 miles on it. I've been getting only about 15 or [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > paltinum plugs. I bought a new distributor cap and rotor but didn't > install them yet. I get 24-25 mpg with general all around driving on both a '93 and '95 850 non-turbo wagon using the lowest octane gas I can buy. It sounds like your pollution system is bad. Probably the oxygen sensor or flame trap. How long has the check engine light been on? SignatureCheers, Steve Henning in Reading, PA, USA Owned '67,'68,'71,'74,'79,'81,'87,'93,'95 & '01 Volvos. The '67,'74,'79,'87,'95 and '01 through European Delivery. http://home.earthlink.net/~rotarians/volvo.html What impact do a bad O sensor or flame trap have? Do you get an overly rich blend? > > I have a 96 850 GLT non turbo wagon that I bought used a couple of > > monthe ago with 129,00 miles on it. I've been getting only about 15 or [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > The '67,'74,'79,'87,'95 and '01 through European Delivery. > http://home.earthlink.net/~rotarians/volvo.html > What impact do a bad O sensor or flame trap have? Do you get an overly > rich blend? A bad O2 sensor can cause poor gas mileage and the strong smell of an over rich mixture. A bad flame trap shouldn't affect gas mileage much, but it would cause crank case fumes to be released rather than burned causing a bad odor. It also increases oil consumption. SignatureCheers, Steve Henning in Reading, PA, USA Owned '67,'68,'71,'74,'79,'81,'87,'93,'95 & '01 Volvos. The '67,'74,'79,'87,'95 and '01 through European Delivery. http://home.earthlink.net/~rotarians/volvo.html Where is my flame trap (V70) and how can I check it? I am using about 1l oil every 1,000 or so recently. Thanks. > > What impact do a bad O sensor or flame trap have? Do you get an overly > > rich blend? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > The '67,'74,'79,'87,'95 and '01 through European Delivery. > http://home.earthlink.net/~rotarians/volvo.html > Where is my flame trap (V70) and how can I check it? I am using about > 1l oil every 1,000 or so recently. Go to: http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search?hl=en And enter: All Words: V70 Flame Trap Group: alt.autos.volvo Set to: 100 messages and then click "Gougle Search" You will find many discussions on where it is and what to do. SignatureCheers, Steve Henning in Reading, PA, USA Owned '67,'68,'71,'74,'79,'81,'87,'93,'95 & '01 Volvos. The '67,'74,'79,'87,'95 and '01 through European Delivery. http://home.earthlink.net/~rotarians/volvo.html Since my V70 is a 98 I understand that there is no flame trap! Any other thoughts on where my oil may be going? The Check Engine Light is on and I get an 072 message, rich fuel, etc. Thanks! > > Where is my flame trap (V70) and how can I check it? I am using about > > 1l oil every 1,000 or so recently. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > The '67,'74,'79,'87,'95 and '01 through European Delivery. > http://home.earthlink.net/~rotarians/volvo.html The check engine light isn't on which is a little surprising consdiering how bad the exhaust smells. I was also a little suprised that the car passed the PA emsissions inspection. Thanks, Bill > > I have a 96 850 GLT non turbo wagon that I bought used a couple of > > monthe ago with 129,00 miles on it. I've been getting only about 15 or [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > The '67,'74,'79,'87,'95 and '01 through European Delivery. > http://home.earthlink.net/~rotarians/volvo.html > I have a 96 850 GLT non turbo wagon that I bought used a couple of > monthe ago with 129,00 miles on it. I've been getting only about 15 or [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Bill My V70XC gets about that. Before that, my 240s used to get 12-14mpg. So I look at it as an improvement! > Before that, my 240s used to get 12-14mpg. And what was wrong with them? ;) I get about double that, even on my petrol-hungry '90 245 with B230F and AW-70... mostly on highway, naturally, but 12--14 sounds a lot even in town. SignatureSakari Ailus http://www.iki.fi/~sailus/ Our 240 sedan got around 25 on the highway, mid-teens in town. I guess the wagon/estate is heavier. > > Before that, my 240s used to get 12-14mpg. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > and AW-70... mostly on highway, naturally, but 12--14 sounds a lot > even in town. > Our 240 sedan got around 25 on the highway, mid-teens in town. I guess > the wagon/estate is heavier. They are by about 300 lbs, they also have a slightly lower coefficient of drag. My mom has a 245 with a manual gearbox and it occasionally manages a hair over 30 mpg if it's all on the highway. In an earlier contribution to this discussion, >> Our 240 sedan got around 25 on the highway, mid-teens in town. I >> guess the wagon/estate is heavier. > > They are by about 300 lbs, they also have a slightly lower coefficient > of drag. My mom has a 245 with a manual gearbox and it occasionally > manages a hair over 30 mpg if it's all on the highway. It would be helpful in this discussion if respondents specified which type of gallon they are referring to - since an Imperial gallon is more than 20% greater than a US gallon, and makes quite a difference to the mpg figures! Only then can we be sure that we are comparing apples with apples. SignatureCheers, Roger ______ Email address maintained for newsgroup use only, and not regularly monitored.. Messages sent to it may not be read for several weeks. PLEASE REPLY TO NEWSGROUP! >> Before that, my 240s used to get 12-14mpg. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > and AW-70... mostly on highway, naturally, but 12--14 sounds a lot > even in town. I got that low in my 240 once, it was the few days after I first cranked the turbo boost up to 17 psi and was flooring it practically every chance I had. Driving more reasonably I get close to 20mpg mixed even with the old mechanical injection and turbo. A standard 240 will get mid to high 20s if everything is in good order. > with the old mechanical injection and turbo. A standard 240 will get mid > to high 20s if everything is in good order. Is that with manual or automatic transmission? There's some kind of reference here: <URL:http://www.fueleconomy.gov/> Actually I think that this 23--24 mpg I'm getting on mine is so bad that I'm even considering to have the engine and the transmission replaced with a VW diesel and an M-47. ;-( At least the gearbox. There could be something wrong with the autobox, I guess... it's (I think it's the gearbox!) making hissing noises occasionally but still switches nicely. Oil is okay. SignatureSakari Ailus http://www.iki.fi/~sailus/ OK, the government rating for the 96 850 wagon is 20 MPG US in city driving using premium gas. With all the stop and go driving and short trips that I have 16 MPG with medium grade 89 octane gas probably can't be improved on much. The EPA ratings are usually higher than what you can actually expect to get in practice. Paying the extra cost of 93 octane premium seems like it's not worth it since the engine only can make use of 91 octane. So which is more economical - cheaper 87 octane or slightly higer priced 89 octane which should get better mileage thatn the 87? I guess there is a break even point somewhere depending on the price differential. > > with the old mechanical injection and turbo. A standard 240 will get mid > > to high 20s if everything is in good order. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > it's the gearbox!) making hissing noises occasionally but still > switches nicely. Oil is okay. > So which is more > economical - cheaper 87 octane or slightly higer priced 89 octane which > should get better mileage thatn the 87? I get the same gas mileage with 89 and 87 so 87 is much cheaper for me. I never got as low as 16. It is always between 23 and 25 around town in both the '93 and '95 850 wagon nonturbos. My '01 V70 XC AWD turbo gets 20 to 22 around town. They both all around 30 on the highway. SignatureCheers, Steve Henning in Reading, PA, USA Owned '67,'68,'71,'74,'79,'81,'87,'93,'95 & '01 Volvos. The '67,'74,'79,'87,'95 and '01 through European Delivery. http://home.earthlink.net/~rotarians/volvo.html >> with the old mechanical injection and turbo. A standard 240 will get mid >> to high 20s if everything is in good order. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > it's the gearbox!) making hissing noises occasionally but still > switches nicely. Oil is okay. That's with a manual transmission. The slushbox on a 240 saps 2-3 mpg on average. |
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