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Car Forum / Volvo Cars / February 20072000T S80 Timing Belt - can I make it fail?
Is there anyway to make my timingbelt fail? My warranty covers it if it fails, but does not cover it even thought it is severly cracked. My warranty is the silver package at www.driverzedgevsc.com. I called them and said the Volvo Specialist that is looking at my 2000T S80 that I just bought 2 weeks ago has told me that there is a serious crack in the belt and that it will cost approx 1300 to replace. Does this sound correct? Is there a way I can make it fail without hurting the car to save myself 1300 bucks? >Is there anyway to make my timingbelt fail? My warranty covers it if >it fails, but does not cover it even thought it is severly cracked. My [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >this sound correct? Is there a way I can make it fail without hurting >the car to save myself 1300 bucks? Well, I've never owned an S80 but $1300 parts and labor sounds excessive to me. Is this at a dealer? As for failing that sucker, I *believe* you would be looking at a MUCH more expensive repair given that the valves and pistons would likely meet which ain't good. Most engines today are what is called "interferrence engines" meaning that timing errors are catastrophic. Further, while I haven't checked driverzedge, I suspect they would disavow coverage of the additional damage. Did you, perchance, take this car back to where you bought it? I smell something a tad fishy here. Chuck Fiedler Nothing but Volvo since 1974 It does sound Fish'y' doesn't it. I am very frustrated. I feel like the dealer is giving me the run around - I wanted to know if I could reach in and manually break the timing belt. I ALSO just found out that there is a leak in my gas tank. The check engine light has been going on and off and the dealer said it was because I didn't screw the gas cap on tight enough...but the volvo specialist that told me about the timing belt is now telling me he did a smoke test and there is a crack ABOVE the gas tank which could be VERY VERY expensive.... Is there a warranty/used car advocacy group I can get these answers from? > Did you, perchance, take this car back to where you bought it? I smell > something a tad fishy here. > > Chuck Fiedler > Nothing but Volvo since 1974 > It does sound Fish'y' doesn't it. I am very frustrated. I feel like > the dealer is giving me the run around - I wanted to know if I could [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >> Chuck Fiedler >> Nothing but Volvo since 1974 Depending on where you bought the car there may be consumer protection laws which cover this. I would check very quickly and make sure you have documentation from the Volvo specialist. > Is there anyway to make my timingbelt fail? My warranty covers it if > it fails, but does not cover it even thought it is severly cracked. My [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > this sound correct? Is there a way I can make it fail without hurting > the car to save myself 1300 bucks? Did you purchase this Volvo from a Volvo dealer ? or did you purchase this from a used car dealer ? or another dealership that sells other cars then Volvo ? If the timing belt does break it will damage the cylinder head & the cylinder head will have to be replaced if you are tight on cash you can have the dealer just replace the timing belt drive belt & the thermostat instead of performing the 110K service Glenn K Volvo Certified Technician ASE Certified Technician  Signature"*-344-*Never Forgotten" Is for the New York City Firemen who lost their lives on September 11,2001. The official count is 343, but there was also a volunteer who lost his life aiding in the initial rescue efforts. And I will never forget them as long as I live, nor should any American. > Is there anyway to make my timingbelt fail? My warranty covers it if > it fails, but does not cover it even thought it is severly cracked. My [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > this sound correct? Is there a way I can make it fail without hurting > the car to save myself 1300 bucks? You don't want to do that. If it fails, forced or not, then the engine can easily self destruct. Don't ever buy a third party service contract, you are asking for headaches. >> Is there anyway to make my timingbelt fail? My warranty covers it if >> it fails, but does not cover it even thought it is severly cracked. My [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Don't ever buy a third party service contract, you are asking for > headaches. If the belt fails the engine will be destroyed, there's no way around that. Besides, it's dishonest, the 3rd party warranties are ripoffs, but you chose to purchase one so it doesn't excuse trying to rip them off. > Is there anyway to make my timingbelt fail? My warranty covers it if > it fails, but does not cover it even thought it is severly cracked. My [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > this sound correct? Is there a way I can make it fail without hurting > the car to save myself 1300 bucks? Sure, just put it in park, set the handbrake, start the engine and put a brick on the gas pedal to keep it running wide open. You will eventually break a belt. (and possibly the rest of the engine, but you could then play the game of saying the broken belt also broke the engine and possibly get a rebuilt motor.) A drive belt is like brake pads, a clutch or any other component that you the owner is expected to replace because they wear out. Are you really that much of a deadbeat that you want to scam the warranty company like this? You did agree to the terms when signed the extended warranty. >> Is there anyway to make my timingbelt fail? My warranty covers it if >> it fails, but does not cover it even thought it is severly cracked. My [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >company like this? You did agree to the terms when signed the >extended warranty. Are you certain the warranty covers more than the belt? That is, if the belt fails they'll replace the belt but will they accept liability for other damage resulting from the belt breaking? Be sure before you do anything else. Repairing the damage caused by the broken belt will likely be over $4000 so be very sure. It also occurs to me that they may have included a water pump replacement in the job because it's a cheap part with high labor cost just like the timing belt and they can be done simultaneously to save you $$ in the long run. blurp ps. I have a Nichols labor guide which I'll check this evening to see what the book rating on a timing belt is.
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