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2000 v70 turbo wagon- problem with low gas light

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robbie - 08 Mar 2007 15:53 GMT
ok, my wife keeps running out of gas (duh) so i am ready to tackle
this problem:
the gas gauge works perfectly, as well as the digital readout
(mpg,miles til empty,etc)
but the gas light does not come on when gas is low. the bulb lights
when you start the car,
so its not a burnt out bulb. :)
anyone know where the troubleshooting process starts?
Thanks!!
robbie
Roger Mills - 08 Mar 2007 18:38 GMT
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,

> ok, my wife keeps running out of gas (duh) so i am ready to tackle
> this problem:
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> so its not a burnt out bulb. :)
> anyone know where the troubleshooting process starts?

Yes, with the brain. You re-program it to fill up when the miles til empty
says 50 (say).
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robbie - 08 Mar 2007 19:38 GMT
> In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> monitored.. Messages sent to it may not be read for several weeks.
> PLEASE REPLY TO NEWSGROUP!

Roger, you missed the part about where I said my WIFE keeps running
out of gas...I already told her to fill it before empty, but her brain
evidently CANT be re-programmed to grasp that concept!   :)
Richard Cole - 08 Mar 2007 20:05 GMT
>Roger, you missed the part about where I said my WIFE keeps running
>out of gas...I already told her to fill it before empty, but her brain
>evidently CANT be re-programmed to grasp that concept!   :)
In that case, you've got a user error. Replace user and press any key to
continue.

Honestly, next time she runs out of fuel, don't rush to get to her, it's
her own fault or put a can of fuel in the back of the car!

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Joerg Lorenz - 08 Mar 2007 20:44 GMT
robbie schrieb:

> Roger, you missed the part about where I said my WIFE keeps running
> out of gas...I already told her to fill it before empty, but her brain
> evidently CANT be re-programmed to grasp that concept!   :)

No no Robbie: You missed the concept of women!
Next time she runs out of fuel, do not answer any phone or don't help
her out of her misery and she will be learning extremely quickly....

I really don't feel sorry for you at all! ;-)

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Roger Mills - 08 Mar 2007 22:21 GMT
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,

>> In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
>>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> Roger, you missed the part about where I said my WIFE keeps running
> out of gas...I already told her to fill it before empty,

No I didn't. I didn't specify *whose* brain - and was aware that it was your
wife.

> but her brain
> evidently CANT be re-programmed to grasp that concept!   :)

In that case, a light ain't going to make much difference!
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Roadie - 09 Mar 2007 14:45 GMT
> ok, my wife keeps running out of gas (duh) so i am ready to tackle
> this problem:
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> so its not a burnt out bulb. :)
> anyone know where the troubleshooting process starts?

Well, you have to figure out what triggers the light.  Is it driven by
a chip or by a connection on the gauge. Does the light ever come on
after she has run out of gas?  In my situation I would just call the
service writer at my local Volvo dealer.  He was a mechanic for many
years and knows the cars inside out.

BTW, I understand your predicament and believe it can be traced to the
missing Y chromosone in females.  My lovely wife can ignore the milage
computer, gas gauge and warning light completely.

> Thanks!!
> robbie
Stephen Henning - 09 Mar 2007 15:25 GMT
The red light is just the 2x4 that hits you over the head so you look at
the gas gauge.  A car doesn't need the idiot light unless an idiot is
driving. The fix is to get a good safe gas can and put it in the back.  
After she uses that a few times she will open her eyes.  I guess the
problem there is she would just use up that gas and not fill the car AND
the gas can.  She just needs motivation.  It is like a friends wife that
kept over drawing their checking account. She couldn't figure out why
because she still had checks left.

Good Luck!!
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Roadie - 09 Mar 2007 16:59 GMT
Yes, now I see.  Life's problems made simple by dictated solutions.
Must be a lot of fun at your place.

> On Mar 9, 10:25 am, Stephen Henning <pigh...@aol.com> wrote:
> The red light is just the 2x4 that hits you over the head so you look at
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>     The '67,'74,'79,'87,'95 and '01 through European Delivery.
>  http://rhodyman.net/homevo.html
Stephen Henning - 10 Mar 2007 05:00 GMT
> Yes, now I see.  Life's problems made simple by dictated solutions.
> Must be a lot of fun at your place.

Naw, just work-arounds.   When life deals you lemons you make lemonade.

I am not one to run to the shop for a trivial problem. I usually just
keep track of it and wait until I go in for routine maintenance.  I
would much prefer to drive my Volvo rather than sit and wait for a
mechanic to work on some trivial problem like an idiot light. To each
his own.

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John Robertson - 25 Mar 2007 13:05 GMT
there is seriously nothing wrong with the car ,its your wife thats the
problem .IT COST NO MORE TO KEEP A CAR FULL THAN EMPTY.Running out of fuel
is such a dangerous habit as to where it may happen .In the mean time tell
your sweet wife to fill the car once it gets down to a quarter of a tank
.The damage done trying to get the car running when its out of fuel is
enormous , besides the personal safety issue .

>> ok, my wife keeps running out of gas (duh) so i am ready to tackle
>> this problem:
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>> Thanks!!
>> robbie
Roadie - 26 Mar 2007 15:26 GMT
> there is seriously nothing wrong with the car

That is complete nonsense.  The warning light IS NOT working on the
original posters car.  He is looking for a solution and not the
ramblings of yet another internet troll.

Instead of posting purposeless messages why don't you try making a
contribution and find a solution to the problem with the gas gauge.
Of course for you to contribute something useful to this forum you
will have to some understanding about how Volvo cars operate.  Your
comments lead me to conclude that you have little automotive knowlege
and really just enjoy the negative attention that comes from posting
nasty messages.

> ,its your wife thats the
> problem .IT COST NO MORE TO KEEP A CAR FULL THAN EMPTY.Running out of fuel
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -
Roger Mills - 26 Mar 2007 16:32 GMT
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,

>> there is seriously nothing wrong with the car
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> and really just enjoy the negative attention that comes from posting
> nasty messages.

So do you have a solution to the original problem - or don't *you* have any
understanding of how Volvos operate either?
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Robert - 26 Mar 2007 17:20 GMT
My oh my, there seems to be a bit of tension on this topic...

I don't own a 2000, but I had a '98 V70XC and we had the same problem
happen. We narrowed ours down to an ECU problem. We took it in for a
emmisions test and when the idiot plugged the tester into the OBDII
port, he gave me a look that I knew something was wrong -- and they he
goes "Wow, I've never seen that before. Let's try resetting it."
Eventually we get done the emissions test, and they gave us a
complementary state inspection, and nothing was wrong...the only
difference was that the gas light didn't work. Everything else was
fine, gas guage included. Long story short, we took it to Bill Kidd's
Volvo in Maryland and the state paid for the ECU re-program. I can't
remember the price, but I don't think it was too bad.

Hope that helps.
Roadie - 26 Mar 2007 18:52 GMT
> In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
>
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

I provided suggestions for checking out the cause of the gauge
problem, in answer to the original posters question.  So far all you
two have managed to do is provide immature responses designed mostly
to draw attention.
Roger Mills - 27 Mar 2007 09:43 GMT
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,

> I provided suggestions for checking out the cause of the gauge
> problem, in answer to the original posters question.  So far all you
> two have managed to do is provide immature responses designed mostly
> to draw attention.

All we have done is to point out that, whilst the light may be a 'nice to
have', it is by no means essential - and anyone with a modicum of
intelligence (without which they shouldn't be driving!) can easily
circumvent its absense.
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Roadie - 27 Mar 2007 12:43 GMT
> In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> circumvent its absense.
> --

And your response of course has absolutely no bearing on the question
asked by the original poster.  It's nothing more than a way of playing
the juvenile game of look-at-me for the outrageous statement I just
made.  The end result is of course you get to look back at all of the
messages you have trolled with your posting.
Roger Mills - 27 Mar 2007 14:03 GMT
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,

>> In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
>>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> made.  The end result is of course you get to look back at all of the
> messages you have trolled with your posting.

My word, you *have* got the bit between your teeth, haven't you!

I think that if you look at my posting record in this newsgroup, you'll find
that - on the whole - I've provided helpful answers to sensible questions,
but this . . .

[It would have been different if the OP had simply asked how to fix a broken
low-fuel light - but couched in terms of "my wife keeps running out of fuel
because she's too stupid to look at the fuel gauge" - it was less likely to
receive a sympathetic response!]
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Roadie - 27 Mar 2007 14:24 GMT
> In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
>
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> that - on the whole - I've provided helpful answers to sensible questions,
> but this . . .

Useful and considerate comments like this:  "Yes, with the brain. You
re-program it to fill up when the miles til empty says 50 (say). "
Roger Mills - 27 Mar 2007 21:19 GMT
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,

>> In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
>>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Useful and considerate comments like this:  "Yes, with the brain. You
> re-program it to fill up when the miles til empty says 50 (say). "

Well, you've quoted from *this* thread - which I've already admitted is an
exception to the norm.

If you want a better example, try this one:

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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Larry <midicad2001@yahoo.com>  wrote:

> Getting this message from Wheelworks technician, claims "manufacturer
> requirement".  There is nothing wrong with the rotors.  Car has
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Thx!

There is no such requirement that I am aware of! When replacing the pads,
the discs (rotors) need to be checked to make sure that they
are within spec with regard to:
* minimum remaining thickness
* runout
* absence of serious scoring

Provided they are ok, there's no reason to replace them.

My 1999 V70 (UK) still has the original discs but is on its second set of
pads.
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Cheers,
Roger
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Roadie - 27 Mar 2007 22:51 GMT
> In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
>
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
> pads.
> -
I'm proud of you lad - I knew you could do it.  Next challenge is to
post positive constructive comments consistently.
Roger Mills - 28 Mar 2007 10:00 GMT
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,

> I'm proud of you lad - I knew you could do it.  Next challenge is to
> post positive constructive comments consistently.

As my wife would tell you, I don't "suffer fools gladly". A sensible, well
constructed question will always get a constructive answer - a silly one
won't!
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Stephen Henning - 28 Mar 2007 18:29 GMT
> That is complete nonsense.  The warning light IS NOT working on the
> original posters car.  He is looking for a solution and not the
> ramblings of yet another internet troll.

The IDIOT light is not working, and if you are not an IDIOT you don't
need one. The original poster doesn't want to make a trip in to get it
fixed, so why should we sweat it. It is only an IDIOT light. Lighten up.

The light is OK so the problem is the sender, the receiver or the
connections.  Since the receiver is the ECU, it may be a computer
glitch.  It is a snap for any Volvo mechanic.
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Roadie - 29 Mar 2007 13:06 GMT
> > That is complete nonsense.  The warning light IS NOT working on the
> > original posters car.  He is looking for a solution and not the
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>     The '67,'74,'79,'87,'95 and '01 through European Delivery.
>  http://rhodyman.net/homevo.html

Interesting response.  All this time I thought one of the purposes of
this forum was to provide technical guidance to owers of Volvo cars
when they don't know the solution to a problem.  Stephen Henning,
Roger Mills and John Robertson have proven me otherwise.  It's
principally a mutual appreciation society for a few such as yourself
to seek group reaffirmation of their knowlege about Volvo cars.  But
when someone with less knowlege asks an imperfectly phrased question
it also provides an opportunity for the little group to have fun and
games by making fun of the way the question was asked.

I'm beginning to think Steve, John and Roger are less mature than
their years would indicate.  I'm also thinking that they may not know
as much about Volvo cars as they have convinced themselves.
Roger Mills - 29 Mar 2007 13:39 GMT
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,

> I'm beginning to think Steve, John and Roger are less mature than
> their years would indicate.  I'm also thinking that they may not know
> as much about Volvo cars as they have convinced themselves.

Since when did maturity require you to be dead-pan serious all the time?

Just learn to chill out a bit, and go with the flow!
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robbie - 06 Apr 2007 02:10 GMT
Thanks to the people who had something constructive to say. I
appreciate the advice, and will probably put it on a to do list for
the volvo dealer. I know I started off with some wife-abusive humor,
but I did pose a legitimate question, and so appreciate the thoughtful
and appropriate responses. Thanks again!
Robbie
Stephen Henning - 06 Apr 2007 04:50 GMT
> Thanks to the people who had something constructive to say. I
> appreciate the advice, and will probably put it on a to do list for
> the volvo dealer. I know I started off with some wife-abusive humor,
> but I did pose a legitimate question, and so appreciate the thoughtful
> and appropriate responses.

Hi robbie.  Glad that you were able to sort out this issue.  Hope your
wife is happy also.  I agree that an idiot light belongs, on a to-do
list for the next visit.  Gee, what roadie called immature advice was
appropriate advice for you.

"I am not one to run to the shop for a trivial problem. I usually just
keep track of it and wait until I go in for routine maintenance.  I
would much prefer to drive my Volvo rather than sit and wait for a
mechanic to work on some trivial problem like an idiot light. To each
his own."

Next time maybe he will stop talking unless he can follow his own advice
and ...

> post positive constructive comments consistently.

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Roadie - 06 Apr 2007 14:41 GMT
> > Thanks to the people who had something constructive to say. I
> > appreciate the advice, and will probably put it on a to do list for
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> list for the next visit.  Gee, what roadie called immature advice was
> appropriate advice for you.

I can only guess Steven has forgotten about the sage advice he offered
on March 9:  "The red light is just the 2x4 that hits you over the
head so you look at the gas gauge.  A car doesn't need the idiot light
unless an idiot is driving."

Or this equally friendly little tidbit:  "...if you are not an IDIOT
you don't need one."

For some reason Steven has flip-flopped completely on an issue he
feels quite strongly about.  Maybe he is feeling a bit down today and
is fishing for warm and fuzzies and just wants to be remembered of as
a really nice guy.  Or maybe he is having short term memory issues.
Stephen Henning - 06 Apr 2007 21:59 GMT
> I can only guess Steven has forgotten about the sage advice he offered
> on March 9:  "The red light is just the 2x4 that hits you over the
> head so you look at the gas gauge.  A car doesn't need the idiot light
> unless an idiot is driving."

OK, I stand corrected.  All cars except Roadie's don't need IDIOT
lights.

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byrocat - 12 Mar 2007 20:34 GMT
Sounds as though your wife is a pampered sort (add-ethnic-group-
American Princess) who has never really learned the concepts behind
driving (auto maintenance, mechnics, etc.)

Quietly enroll her in a women's automotic course, and also tell her
that she has to refill the car at least once a week or more frequently
if she's doing a lot of driving.

My wife?  She's a better mechanic and driver than I am. She's the one
with the red S40T while I chunk around in the silver V40T. The only
thing that I have to do for her WRT the car is to take it over to the
local shop (Suters in Aurora) on my work-at-home days when it's due
for maintenance.
 
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