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Car Forum / Volvo Cars / April 2007Volvo S80 Auto
Can anyone help me please? I have an 02 Volvo S80 automatic and today the gearbox refused to change from what I think is 2nd to 3rd gear. The only way around it was to select L and get the speed up to about 35mph and then change into D. It point blank refused to go into 3rd when in 2, 3 or D. Is this a sign that I have problems with the torque converter, or the gearbox. > Can anyone help me please? > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Is this a sign that I have problems with the torque converter, or the > gearbox. First thing to do is check oil level. Greetings Niels > > Can anyone help me please? > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Greetings Niels Hi Niels Thanks for this, it was after changing the oil levels that the problem occurred. The oil levels on the gearbox are OK. Any thoughts? David >> > Can anyone help me please? >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > occurred. The oil levels on the gearbox are OK. Any thoughts? > David Thats sounds interesting, has to much oil been put on? Remember the marks are different for cold and warm oil. What about the oil quality, is it the correct type of oil? Are any error codes stores? Greetings Niels > >> > Can anyone help me please? > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Greetings Niels I've talked to the guy this morning who helped me with the oil, and think we might have come up with an answer to the reason why the fault might be occurring. First of all, this is the first time I have worked on my S80 Volvo - had it for 18 months and never done anything with it! Everything has worked perfectly, goes like a dream and is so comfortable I have trouble getting out of it to go to bed!! My previous Volvo 740 Estate lasted 15 years with me so I knew almost everything about it. The old oil was drained from the gearbox and refilled from the top filler plug. And that was all I did. Talking with my rather more knowledgeable friend today about your response I think we have discovered a fundamental error in what we tried to do. As I now understand it, in order to change the gearbox oil I need to have the oil cooler drain plug (attached to the radiator) open and the engine running, at the same time the filler plug on the top of the gearbox should be open and as the old oil drains out of the bottom of the cooler plug we should be filling the new oil in from the top. If this is the correct procedure then I feel maybe what happened is that we have accidentally introduced an air bubble into the gearbox oil, and this is causing the gears to fail to select through the torque mechanism. I hope you follow what I am trying to describe, and that this helps to throw a bit more light on the problem. Cheers David What model gearbox is it? 4 or 5 speed ? What type of engine? Each gearbox has it own method for oil change. Greetings Niels > What model gearbox is it? 4 or 5 speed ? > What type of engine? > > Each gearbox has it own method for oil change. > > Greetings Niels It's an S80 Automatic, 5 speed. AW5 model. Cheers David On 4 Apr, 15:44, david.cather...@gmail.com wrote: > > What model gearbox is it? 4 or 5 speed ? > > What type of engine? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Cheers > David Sorry, missed a bit off. It is a 2.4 litre petrol engine >> > What model gearbox is it? 4 or 5 speed ? >> > What type of engine? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Sorry, missed a bit off. > It is a 2.4 litre petrol engine To change you remove the upper hose on the oil cooler, start the engine and let it run until oil with air comes out the hose. Shut off engine and fill the same amount on as you got out. Start engine, run 5 sec in each gear and oil comes out again. Repeat until oil is nice and red like the new you pour on. Put hose back on, run throught gears, shut off engine and check oil level. What oil did you put on? Does it meet the specs for the gearbox? Greetings Niels > >> > What model gearbox is it? 4 or 5 speed ? > >> > What type of engine? [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Greetings Niels Hi Neils thanks for the instructions. I will follow them when I start to do the change. The oil is right for the gearbox, specs are same as Volvo demand. I'm a bit concerned about running it in each gear whilst stationary. I suppose for 5 seconds it won't do any harm to keep my foot hard on the brake for that time. Cheers David > Hi Neils > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Cheers > David You dont press the speeder in the gears, just go thorugh them with 5 sec in each gear and the foot on the brake off course. Thats no problem. Greetings Niels > > Hi Neils > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Greetings Niels Thank you Neils I will come back to you and let you know how I go on when I have managed to change it. Keep your fingers crossed! Cheers David On 5 Apr, 17:17, david.cather...@gmail.com wrote: > > > Hi Neils > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > Cheers > David Hi Neils I did everything you and the workshop manual said. Still getting the same problem. But now it has got worse. The gears are banging when I try to change gear as I move along. It is so bad that I have to start in D and it appears to be moving off in top gear. Seems a bit terminal to me. David >> I will come back to you and let you know how I go on when I have >> managed to change it. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > David Too bad. I would recommend you go to a workshop that have some experienze with that type of transmission and hear their opinion. Sometimes one has to admit that not all problems can be solved in ones own garage. I dont know what more help i can give you here. Greetings Niels > >> I will come back to you and let you know how I go on when I have > >> managed to change it. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Greetings Niels I went to see my friendly garage today. He said that maybe the original problem was caused by a filter becoming blocked. But when I told him about the banging he pulled a face and made a noise like a plumber does when you ask him for a price for fixing a leak in your boiler. You know the sort of noise - sucking his teeth and shaking his head. Anyway, the car goes to him on Monday and I am then going to the bank to re-mortgage the house. I'll keep you posted about what happens. David On 13 Apr, 17:14, david.cather...@gmail.com wrote: > > >> I will come back to you and let you know how I go on when I have > > >> managed to change it. [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > David Hi Neils Just returned from the garage which has investigated the problem with the car. They tell me that it is a valve within the gearbox which has broken. The guy from the garage spoke to two local Volvo dealers who both said, "Oh we sell quite a lot of those, it's a fairly common problem with this model" This makes me a little bit unhappy to say the least. The repairs are going to cost about £1600.00!! Thanks for your help along the way. I don't suppose for one minute that Volvo would ever consider accepting that it is a common problem and that they should foot the bill. David Hi Neils Just returned from the garage which has investigated the problem with the car. They tell me that it is a valve within the gearbox which has broken. The guy from the garage spoke to two local Volvo dealers who both said, "Oh we sell quite a lot of those, it's a fairly common problem with this model" This makes me a little bit unhappy to say the least. The repairs are going to cost about £1600.00!! Thanks for your help along the way. I don't suppose for one minute that Volvo would ever consider accepting that it is a common problem and that they should foot the bill. David Glad to hear you found the problem, but not to hear the price. Sometimes its ecxpensive to be a car owner. My climate control is out of order, and i have a feeling it might be the most expensive part that needs replacement, the evaporater in the cabin, too bad for me. Greetings Niels |
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