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Car Forum / Volvo Cars / May 2007

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broken radiator-hose connection fixable?

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Art McGinn - 08 May 2007 06:28 GMT
the upper radiator-hose connection snapped-off, hose intact, and the
connection appears to be plastic. on a volvo? does a radiator have
replaceable parts or do you have to replace the whole thing in this
situation? it appears that both sides of the radiator have plastic
components top to bottom. thanks any info. art, '97 960 wagon
John Jensen - 08 May 2007 18:47 GMT
This happened on my 91 740 wagon.  It needed a new radiator (this occured in
2000).  The new radiator had a metal insert inside the plastic effectively
beefing it up.  I was very much surprised at the all-plastic construction
but I believe the reinforcement takes care of the problem.

JJ

>    the upper radiator-hose connection snapped-off, hose intact, and the
> connection appears to be plastic. on a volvo? does a radiator have
> replaceable parts or do you have to replace the whole thing in this
> situation? it appears that both sides of the radiator have plastic
> components top to bottom. thanks any info. art, '97 960 wagon
James Sweet - 08 May 2007 19:05 GMT
>    the upper radiator-hose connection snapped-off, hose intact, and the
> connection appears to be plastic. on a volvo? does a radiator have
> replaceable parts or do you have to replace the whole thing in this
> situation? it appears that both sides of the radiator have plastic
> components top to bottom. thanks any info. art, '97 960 wagon

No, don't even try. Replace the awful plastic tank radiator with a new
aftermarket metal tank rad, that's something that should NEVER have been
made of plastic, they *always* fail catastrophically and dump all the
coolant almost instantly, makes me wonder how many engines have been ruined
by that.
hardl;abor - 09 May 2007 13:03 GMT
my  radiator  on my 91 740 broke the same way. the guy who said let use
plastic must have been the guy who said let sell volvo to Ford. I mean
fuckin plastic on a volvo radiator

>>    the upper radiator-hose connection snapped-off, hose intact, and the
>> connection appears to be plastic. on a volvo? does a radiator have
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> coolant almost instantly, makes me wonder how many engines have been
> ruined by that.
Michael Pardee - 09 May 2007 13:27 GMT
> my  radiator  on my 91 740 broke the same way. the guy who said let use
> plastic must have been the guy who said let sell volvo to Ford. I mean
> fuckin plastic on a volvo radiator

It's nearly universal now. There must be a reason, but I don't think I know
what it is.

Mike
Roadie - 09 May 2007 13:32 GMT
On May 9, 8:27 am, "Michael Pardee" <michaeltn...@cybertrails.com>
wrote:

> > my  radiator  on my 91 740 broke the same way. the guy who said let use
> > plastic must have been the guy who said let sell volvo to Ford. I mean
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>
> Mike

Volvo and the other car makers are lilely saving a little weight and
some cost.
Gary Heston - 10 May 2007 01:40 GMT
>> my  radiator  on my 91 740 broke the same way. the guy who said let use
>> plastic must have been the guy who said let sell volvo to Ford. I mean
>> fuckin plastic on a volvo radiator

>It's nearly universal now. There must be a reason, but I don't think I know
>what it is.

Cheaper. The end tanks aren't a significant part of the heat transfer
function anyway, so for the short term, it's better from a manufacturing
point of view and from a beancounter point of view. The engineers never
have final say...

 Gary

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"release embarassing recordings...". What, he has a copy of her album?

Art McGinn - 10 May 2007 03:51 GMT
grim. surprising. not acceptable from volvo. what next, one hates to
think. replacement runs about 300 beans plus labor, it appears.
otherwise...thanks guys.

>>    the upper radiator-hose connection snapped-off, hose intact, and the
>> connection appears to be plastic. on a volvo? does a radiator have
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> coolant almost instantly, makes me wonder how many engines have been ruined
> by that.
mjc13<NOSPAM> - 10 May 2007 05:13 GMT
>    grim. surprising. not acceptable from volvo. what next, one hates to
> think. replacement runs about 300 beans plus labor, it appears.
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>> the coolant almost instantly, makes me wonder how many engines have
>> been ruined by that.

   A caveat, though: even the aftermarket metal ones have weak points.
While installing the reservoir hose on the nipple of an aftermarket
radiator, the metal nipple pulled partially out of the radiator - it was
crimped in, not soldered. Last time I used one of the 'grippy' type hoses...
James Sweet - 10 May 2007 05:20 GMT
>    grim. surprising. not acceptable from volvo. what next, one hates to
> think. replacement runs about 300 beans plus labor, it appears.
> otherwise...thanks guys.

Is that online? The Nissens 3 row radiators for 200 and 700 series are
around $200, I'm not sure if the one for a 960 is different.
Art McGinn - 15 May 2007 19:42 GMT
as a followup, the otherwise excellent radiator was -- and is --
unfixable and had to be replaced. total cost $320 including labor. i
hope the guy who made v.p. for suggesting plastic radiator components
gags on his foie gras. art

>    the upper radiator-hose connection snapped-off, hose intact, and the
> connection appears to be plastic. on a volvo? does a radiator have
> replaceable parts or do you have to replace the whole thing in this
> situation? it appears that both sides of the radiator have plastic
> components top to bottom. thanks any info. art, '97 960 wagon
Roadie - 17 May 2007 14:25 GMT
>     as a followup, the otherwise excellent radiator was -- and is --
> unfixable and had to be replaced. total cost $320 including labor. i
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Uh, yes.  Also be on the lookout for plastic heater and bypass hose
connectors which can after several years just break into two pieces at
the most inopportune time.  Usually on a sunday when the parts
department is closed.
 
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