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Car Forum / Volvo Cars / June 20071997 2.5TDi Manual gearbox oil type ?
I am planning on changing the gearbox oil in my 1997 V70 2.5TDi with a manual gearbox.... Can anyone tell me the recommended / best oil to use for the replacement please ? I guess if it had been listed there might be better oils available 10 years on... Thanks, Nick > I am planning on changing the gearbox oil in my 1997 V70 2.5TDi > with a manual gearbox.... [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I guess if it had been listed there might be better oils available 10 > years on... _____ I recommend RedLine products. Very fine oils indeed. I put RedLine oil in the gearbox (M47) and the differential of my 1989 Volvo 240. Local suppliers usually carry that brand.  SignatureRegards / JCH > I recommend RedLine products. Very fine oils indeed. I put RedLine oil > in the gearbox (M47) and the differential of my 1989 Volvo 240. > > Local suppliers usually carry that brand. Thanks JCH - However I should have said I am in the UK and don't think its commonly available over here. What weight / spec is manual gearbox oil ? And any idea the capacity of a drained box ? Thanks Nick >> I recommend RedLine products. Very fine oils indeed. I put RedLine oil >> in the gearbox (M47) and the differential of my 1989 Volvo 240. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > What weight / spec is manual gearbox oil ? And any idea the capacity of a > drained box ? _____ Have a look at the RedLine website about manual transmissions: http://www.redlineoil.com/products_gearlubricants.asp?categoryID=7 For the differential look at: http://www.redlineoil.com/products_gearlubricants.asp?categoryID=6 I believe i used MTL or MTL-90 for the tranny. The 1989 Volvo is now owned by my son. He has all the maintenance records. For the differential i used the RedLine 75W90 gear oil. I had a problem removing the filler plug on the M47 (manual 5 speed) tranny. Make sure that you can remove the filler plug *before* draining the box. I don't know what kind of tranny your car has. If it is similar to the M47, then you should be able to "overfill" it a bit. I recall getting about 2 liters of oil for the manual tranny. I added the oil with a plastic bottle and a plastic Tygon tube. By squeezing the bottle you can "push" the oil into the filler opening. For availability of RedLine products, have a look at: http://www.redlineoil.com/dealers.asp There are many locations where this product can be purchased in the UK. SignatureRegards / JCH > _____ > Have a look at the RedLine website about manual transmissions: [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > There are many locations where this product can be purchased in the UK. Hi, Thanks for the reply... Mine the V70 2.5 TDi is 5 speed ( + reverse!) manual on a 5 cyl engine, front wheel drive so I assume that engine and gearbox oil are separate and differential is "within the gearbox" and shares the same oil. I guess it dangerous to assume so will check with the dealer and get the correct oil / quantity and also (thanks for the tip) check I can undo the filler / level plug before draining. I found the Redline site and the UK dealers - none of which are within 40 miles of me, but I guess any good quality brand will be fine. Thanks again, Nick >> _____ >> Have a look at the RedLine website about manual transmissions: [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > miles of me, but I guess any good > quality brand will be fine. What spec of oil does the Redline cross-reference to ? I would suggest Fuch's, Morris's or Castrol would be brands to begin with.. Also an S70 running on 10yr old oil.. Tim.. >>> _____ >>> Have a look at the RedLine website about manual transmissions: [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > Tim.. Redline doesn't seem to give product applications but there only seems to be around 75W to 90W anyway. Is it OK to slightly overfill gearboxes as JCH suggested and why would anyone want to ? I was going to look at Morris's and Castrol anyway but its the oil weight and volume I am trying to establish - dealer will be open now so can ring them Thanks, Nick > Is it OK to slightly overfill gearboxes as JCH suggested and why would > anyone want to ? It's okay but only some gearboxes benefit. My memory is dim, but one of the cars I had in the past needed it because the synchros were balky at the prescribed level. The downside is that the gears slow more quickly between shifts. Good to some extent while upshifting but a complication while downshifting. Mike >I am planning on changing the gearbox oil in my 1997 V70 2.5TDi >with a manual gearbox.... >Can anyone tell me the recommended / best oil to use for the replacement please >? >I guess if it had been listed there might be better oils available 10 years >on... The question concerning this specific Volvo Part Volvo P/N 11 61 423-7 Oil has been discussed with the title "M90 gearbox - Oil?" , a thread started on 20.4.2007 in this newsgroup. According to the VADIS for your car the same oil is recommended. You should find a clue in this thread. Regards Viktor Die e-mail im Header wird nie gelesen Persönliche e-mail vikwei klammeräffchen gmx pünktchen at >>I am planning on changing the gearbox oil in my 1997 V70 2.5TDi >>with a manual gearbox.... [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Regards > Viktor I believe that the Volvo gearbox oil for the M56 model is 5w30 oil, fully synthetic. Greetings Niels > I believe that the Volvo gearbox oil for the M56 model is 5w30 oil, fully > synthetic. I think the easiest method is to go to one of the big oil companies´ local website and question the "oilfinder" section with the data of your car. According to what I can distill from Nicks posting, he´s living in the UK, so I looked at the UK-website of Shell: http://www.shell.com/home/PlainPageServlet?FC=/uk-en/tailored/shell_for_motorist s/oils_lubricants/helix_new/app_lubematch_3May2007.html As a result: Shell in the UK suggests for your car: Make VOLVO Model S70, V70 2.5 Turbodiesel Engine DT Year 1997-01 Application Recommendation Capacity (ltr) Engine (DT) HELIX PLUS 10W-40 (w) 6 Manual Transmission SPIRAX ASX 75W-90 Automatic Transmission DONAX TX 7.6 Differential From Gearbox Coolant (50%) Glycoshell Concentrate (u) 12.2 Wheel Bearings Transmission (AW55 50SN) REFER TO OWNERS HANDBOOK Brake Fluid Brake and Clutch Fluid DOT 4 On the other hand the Swedish website suggests to contact technical support of Shell: http://www.shell.com/home/PlainPageServlet?FC=/se-sv/tailored/shell_for_motorist s/oils_lubricants/helix_new/app_choose_ga_0312.html Transaxel, manuell Volym 2,1 liter Intervall/förhållande: Standard Produkter: Kontakta vår tekniska support Kontrollera/Byt: Kontrollera 15000 km / 12 månader You might try also with one of the other big oil companies in the UK yourself. Regards Viktor The e-mail in the header is never read personal e-mail vikwei at gmx dot at >> I believe that the Volvo gearbox oil for the M56 model is 5w30 oil, fully >> synthetic. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Manual Transmission SPIRAX ASX 75W-90 > Automatic Transmission DONAX TX 7.6 This is definately wrong- I know for a fact that the M56 'box doesnt use a heavy weight 75+ viscosity oil. Its more along the lines of a 5w-30 / 10w-40 style, but we need to know the exact specification... Tim.. > This is definately wrong- I know for a fact that the M56 'box doesnt use a > heavy weight 75+ viscosity oil. Its more along the lines of a 5w-30 / 10w-40 > style, but we need to know the exact specification... > > Tim.. Interesting. When I was looking for the correct oil for my automatic gearbox, I contacted Shell in Austria and they called me back and I had an informative talk with a competent person. So maybe a call to Shell in the UK would shed light on the question. I wonder why Volvo constructed such a secret world around the oil specifications. Have other car companies similar secrets around such a simple thing as lubricants? Regards Viktor >> Shell in the UK suggests for your car: >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Tim.. Not sure which "M number" box mine has, other than it is a manual, 5 speed + reverse, on a Feb 1997 5 cylinder direct injection diesel and which takes 7 litres of engine oil( Oh - the Audi engine, someone once said) anyway... I spoke to my bloke today who is ex Volvo and whilst he didn't know, he rang his mate at a transmission company who confirmed your thoughts (Tim) pretty much exactly... this coupled with the dealer I dropped in on last night who showed me some Volvo booklet which said Part No "ZXDVVBHJK" or something ( i.e. nothing illuminating), although it did say Fully Synthetic and 2.1 Litres capacity, so I reckon for our climate either a good quality 5W-30 or 10W-40 fully synthetic engine oil ( which he also said is commonly spec'd for manual gearboxes) will be what it ends up.. I'll keep researching though, out of interest, for a while.... Anyone else ?? Thanks all Nick Nick, I also have a 2.5 TDi with manual, though a 98 V70, and also want to change the gearbox oil. Did you do the job as yet, and if so, what do I need to know? Did you end up using engine oil? Bill > Nick, > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Bill Hi Bill, Yes - done it and I got several replies saying it is just a good quality fully synthetic engine oil, so that's what I used and its been fine for about 9 days and 500 miles - seems to be just like it was before... Nick |
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