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Turning off daytime running lights on a 2002 V70

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njord - 05 Sep 2007 23:28 GMT
Is there any way for an owner to do this?

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mdrawson - 06 Sep 2007 01:09 GMT
On the 2000 S70, there is a small screw just next to the headlight switch
which you can turn to shut off the DRL function.  I would assume it would be
the same for the V70

> Is there any way for an owner to do this?
Roland Messerschmidt - 06 Sep 2007 11:16 GMT
Hi,

njord schrieb:

> Is there any way for an owner to do this?

try the way it can be done in my '00 V40:

- switch on ignition
- switch on parking lights (1st position)
- pull and hold (!) high beam lever
- switch off lights while holding high beam lever
- done :-)

Switching on and off DRL is the same procedure.

HTH!

Roland
(Austria)
Stephen Henning - 06 Sep 2007 22:22 GMT
> Is there any way for an owner to do this?

The 2002 does not have the small screwdriver switch near the headlight
switch like older models did.  You can have your dealer change it so
they aren't on when the switch is off.  They may not do it since some
idiots would sue their dealer if they got into an accident blaming the
dealer for doing what they told him to do.

The manual for your car which is on line at:

http://www.volvocars.us/tools/OwnersInfo/

specifically at:

http://new.volvocars.com/ownersdocs/2002/2002_V70/02v70_00.htm

states the following:

"Models with daytime running lights: Low beam headlights will
automatically come on if the ignition key is in position II. Front and
rear parking lights and license plate lights will also be on.

Volvo recommends the use of daytime running lights. If, however, you
would prefer to have these lights turned off (USA only), please consult
your Volvo retailer. Please note that the use of daytime running lights
is mandatory in Canada."

The other way is to use the parking light position.  But you will
probably forget to shut them off when you park, so why not leave them so
they help keep your car the safe car it is.

Daytime running lights (DRLs) are a low-cost method to reduce crashes.
They are especially effective in preventing daytime head-on and
front-corner collisions by increasing vehicle conspicuity and making it
easier to detect approaching vehicles from farther away.

They are required in many countries including Canada and Sweden.

Nearly all published reports indicate DRLs reduce multiple-vehicle
daytime crashes. Evidence about DRL effects on crashes comes from
studies conducted in Scandinavia, Canada, and the United States. A study
examining the effect of Norway's DRL law from 1980 to 1990 found a 10
percent decline in daytime multiple-vehicle crashes. A Danish study
reported a 7 percent reduction in DRL-relevant crashes in the first 15
months after DRL use was required and a 37 percent decline in left-turn
crashes. In a second study covering 2 years and 9 months of Denmark's
law, there was a 6 percent reduction in daytime multiple-vehicle crashes
and a 34 percent reduction in left-turn crashes. A 1994 Transport Canada
study comparing 1990 model year vehicles with DRLs to 1989 vehicles
without them found that DRLs reduced relevant daytime multiple-vehicle
crashes by 11 percent.

In the United States, a 1985 Institute study determined that commercial
fleet passenger vehicles modified to operate with DRLs were involved in
7 percent fewer daytime multiple-vehicle crashes than similar vehicles
without DRLs. A small-scale fleet study conducted in the 1960s found an
18 percent lower daytime multiple-vehicle crash rate for DRL-equipped
vehicles. Multiple-vehicle daytime crashes account for about half of all
police-reported crashes in the United States. A 2002 Institute study
reported a 3 percent decline in daytime multiple-vehicle crash risk in
nine US states concurrent with the introduction of DRLs. Federal
researchers, using data collected nationwide, concluded that there was a
5 percent decline in daytime, two-vehicle, opposite-direction crashes
and a 12 percent decline in fatal crashes with pedestrians and
bicyclists.
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Roadie - 07 Sep 2007 10:41 GMT
> Is there any way for an owner to do this?
>
> --
>
> Njord

I've got to ask why you would want to disable a safety feature that
could actually help alert another driver to your presence.
Roger Mills - 07 Sep 2007 14:25 GMT
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,

>> Is there any way for an owner to do this?
>>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> I've got to ask why you would want to disable a safety feature that
> could actually help alert another driver to your presence.

Why not have the horn sounding whenever you are moving - that would be even
better?! <g>
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M. Fricker - 07 Sep 2007 20:15 GMT
> > I've got to ask why you would want to disable a safety feature that
> > could actually help alert another driver to your presence.
>
> Why not have the horn sounding whenever you are moving - that would be even
> better?! <g>

Even people trying to be JERKS know that loud noises distract drivers
and make the situation less safe unless there is an impending collision
and the sudden onset of noise brings attention to it.
Roger Mills - 07 Sep 2007 21:35 GMT
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,

>>> I've got to ask why you would want to disable a safety feature that
>>> could actually help alert another driver to your presence.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> and make the situation less safe unless there is an impending
> collision and the sudden onset of noise brings attention to it.

But it wouldn't be a sudden noise, it would be a *continuous* noise which
gets louder as you get close to it. What better way to alert other drivers
to your presence?

It's no more stupid that having your headlamps full on in broad daylight, at
any rate!
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M. Fricker - 09 Sep 2007 15:49 GMT
> Why not have the horn sounding whenever you are moving - that would be even
> better?! <g>

> It's no more stupid that having your headlamps full on in broad daylight, at
> any rate!

You are a perfect candidate for a Darwin Award.  I would venture to say
that you probably even drive a car that is the similar shade as the
highway surface.  And you probably wonder why people pull in front of
you.  What a pity.  You probably don't even turn you headlights on until
it is too dark to see where your are going.  After all, that is all you
think they are good for, seeing where you are going at night.  They
would never help others see your car, especially when you are driving
out of a shady area on a bright sunny day.

To which cemetery should they send your Darwin Award?
Roger Mills - 09 Sep 2007 20:19 GMT
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,

>> Why not have the horn sounding whenever you are moving - that would
>> be even better?! <g>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> You are a perfect candidate for a Darwin Award.

<SNIP even more insulting twaddle>

If DRLs are such a good idea, why aren't they mandatory in all countries?
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Roadie - 11 Sep 2007 19:42 GMT
> In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Why not have the horn sounding whenever you are moving - that would be even
> better?! <g>

An excellent idea!  Combine honking all the time with leaving the 4
way flshers on, driving 20 mph below the limit, using daytime running
lights and it's guaranteed that he will be noticed by other drivers.
Some of whom will undoubtedly reciprocate with a salute.

I saw some gal driving on the freeway at 40mph, hands gripped on the
wheel, peering intently at the road in front of her through the spokes
of the steering wheel with the 4 way flashers bliking madly and high
beams on.  Truly an accident waiting to happen.
njord - 10 Sep 2007 21:36 GMT
Thanks to all who responded. There is no screw and the 'holding high beam
switch while turning off light' option did not work. So I guess it's to the
dealer I go (unfortunately, since I will probably be charged $100 for a five
minute job). Ah, well, I can't do much on today's cars anyway. Why should a
theoretically simple job like this be any different.

Njord
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> Is there any way for an owner to do this?
~^ beancounter ~^ - 11 Sep 2007 15:44 GMT
I look at the Volvo's DLR's , ( and operate the same as )
the anti collision lights on my Cessna  .....  What harm
does a bit of extra electrical juce for some extra lighting
do..?

> Thanks to all who responded. There is no screw and the 'holding high beam
> switch while turning off light' option did not work. So I guess it's to the
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>
> - Show quoted text -
Roger Hunt - 11 Sep 2007 16:02 GMT
>I look at the Volvo's DLR's , ( and operate the same as )
>the anti collision lights on my Cessna  .....  What harm
>does a bit of extra electrical juce for some extra lighting
>do..?

They consume power, albeit only a little, but that is derived from
fossil fuel and it all adds up to a devastating contribution to Global
warming.

The only responsible thing to do is to disable all vehicle lights
permanently, and also, in the case of aircraft, any warning lights and
all radar and radio equipment too.

You know it makes sense!
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~^ beancounter ~^ - 11 Sep 2007 17:51 GMT
" You know it makes sense! "

do you really believe all that crap ??

> ~^ beancounter ~^ wrote>I look at the Volvo's DLR's , ( and operate the same as )
> >the anti collision lights on my Cessna  .....  What harm
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> --
> Roger Hunt
Roger Mills - 11 Sep 2007 18:03 GMT
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,

> " You know it makes sense! "
>
> do you really believe all that crap ??

Perhaps you should hone up your irony detector?<g>
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~^ beancounter ~^ - 11 Sep 2007 18:43 GMT
ummm, perhaps Roger...tell ya what...I will conatct
you if I ever get interested in saving the world...thanx
for the advice......

> In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
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Roger Hunt - 11 Sep 2007 19:54 GMT
>ummm, perhaps Roger...tell ya what...I will conatct
>you if I ever get interested in saving the world...thanx
>for the advice......

Which of us Rogers are you communicating with?
The sensible one or the twisted one?
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Roger Mills - 11 Sep 2007 23:17 GMT
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,

>> ummm, perhaps Roger...tell ya what...I will conatct
>> you if I ever get interested in saving the world...thanx
>> for the advice......
>>
> Which of us Rogers are you communicating with?
> The sensible one or the twisted one?

Which one are you?<g>
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Roger Hunt - 12 Sep 2007 00:22 GMT
>In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>Which one are you?<g>

I must be the sensible one, having this afternoon fitted new front discs
+ pads to my beautiful and wonderful 1998 V40 2.0i., and have just
returned home after a good bit of fast night driving to test out and bed
in the new bits (big grin of sharp handling, excellent headlights and
lovely brake feel.).

This arvo also saw me treat it to a thorough cooling system flush, until
the water ran clear (about a litre is held within the engine block so
filling, running, draining got the water coming out clear after half a
dozen cycles. There may be a drain on the block but I didn't bother
looking too closely - it was easy enough.)
Then filled it with 33% anti-freeze mix.

At the weekend my baby will receive a new clutch master cylinder, the
original beginning to show early signs of senility (it creaks, and will
soon start to leak) after 120,000 miles.
This job looks to be very easy - I mean, the master cyl fixings are
accessible from the engine bay, so a doddle to remove and replace.

The next treat will be a decent horn, the original Volvo one sounds like
a strangled parrot, straining on the toilet.
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Roger Mills - 12 Sep 2007 09:48 GMT
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,

>>> Which of us Rogers are you communicating with?
>>> The sensible one or the twisted one?
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> I must be the sensible one, having this afternoon fitted new front
> discs + pads to my beautiful and wonderful 1998 V40 2.0i.,
<SNIP>

So, if I'm the other one, what evidence do you have to support the
description?
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Roger Hunt - 12 Sep 2007 10:00 GMT
>In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>So, if I'm the other one, what evidence do you have to support the
>description?

Oh, er, um. (Looks for escape route)
Well, it is possible to be both at once, or one, or the other, or
neither, at various times.
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Roger Mills - 12 Sep 2007 16:22 GMT
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,

>> So, if I'm the other one, what evidence do you have to support the
>> description?
>
> Oh, er, um. (Looks for escape route)
> Well, it is possible to be both at once, or one, or the other, or
> neither, at various times.

Like I thought - none whatsoever!!
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Roger Hunt - 12 Sep 2007 17:23 GMT
>In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>Like I thought - none whatsoever!!

I haven't had time actually. It's a matter of prioritisation, y'know ...
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Roger Mills - 12 Sep 2007 18:37 GMT
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,

>> In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> I haven't had time actually. It's a matter of prioritisation, y'know
> ...

I won't hold my breath . . !
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