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john - 14 May 2008 17:49 GMT
http://www.digoliardi.net/oil_thingie.jpg

'58 Bug. Under the spare in the trunck.
It is connected to nothing underneath.
I'm guessing it's to lube the jack.

No?
P.J.Berg - 14 May 2008 18:20 GMT
> http://www.digoliardi.net/oil_thingie.jpg
>
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>
> No?

That looks like the original brakefluid reservoir with a non correct cap.
Where is the current brakefluid reservoir?

J.

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Speedy Jim - 14 May 2008 18:36 GMT
>> http://www.digoliardi.net/oil_thingie.jpg
>>
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>
> J.

    They may have replaced the M/C with one having a reservoir on top.

    This cat page shows the original parts:
http://www2.cip1.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=1080

Speedy Jim
http://www.nls.net/mp/volks/
P.J.Berg - 14 May 2008 20:16 GMT
>>> http://www.digoliardi.net/oil_thingie.jpg
>>>
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>
>      They may have replaced the M/C with one having a reservoir on top.

That would be going back in time, as opposite to retrofitting   :-P
The M.c. with a resevoir on top is old, cant remember exactly the cutoff  
year.

J.

>      This cat page shows the original parts:
> http://www2.cip1.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=1080
>
> Speedy Jim
> http://www.nls.net/mp/volks/

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Speedy Jim - 14 May 2008 21:09 GMT
>>>> http://www.digoliardi.net/oil_thingie.jpg
>>>>
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>
> J.

    HaHa!   Yes, you're right.   It's done on newer ones now, such as
    for buggies.   Would sure make it a challenge to fill or even
    inspect on a Beetle though...

Jim
john - 14 May 2008 21:25 GMT
Thanks, guys. I was wrong. This one is connected.

The left front brake drum is dragging badly. Can't drive a block. I'll
power-bleed the system and flush it all.  Would you guess offhand that the
brake cylinder for that wheel is shot?

Now before y'all call me stupid, lemmie to it first. I'm STUPID. Actually,
premature. Didn't want to crawl under in the rain but I finally did.

One more question - there's this thing  in front of the left seat, like a
round thing about this wide, see? And it's got a big button in the middle
that makes a noise when I press it. What's it for? The big round thing I
mean. I know the other is to call in the cattle. Pretty cool.
Speedy Jim - 14 May 2008 21:43 GMT
> Thanks, guys. I was wrong. This one is connected.
>
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> that makes a noise when I press it. What's it for? The big round thing I
> mean. I know the other is to call in the cattle. Pretty cool.

  The dragging is more likely a blocked flex hose;
  they swell up inside as the rubber ages.

  You will want to replace *all* the brake hoses;
  they are now....ummm.....half a century old!
  (The wheel cyls may be too for all we know.)

Jim
john - 15 May 2008 02:06 GMT
>   The dragging is more likely a blocked flex hose;
>   they swell up inside as the rubber ages.
>
>   You will want to replace *all* the brake hoses;
>   they are now....ummm.....half a century old!

Gawl Dern it! Fifty years and already somethin goes wrong!
I tell ya, I'm never buyin a Volkswagen again.

Thanks for that Jim. It didn't occur to me. Replacing the hoses is easy and
pretty much a fun job.
Jeff DeWitt - 15 May 2008 04:32 GMT
>>   The dragging is more likely a blocked flex hose;
>>   they swell up inside as the rubber ages.
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> Thanks for that Jim. It didn't occur to me. Replacing the hoses is easy and
> pretty much a fun job.

I was at a Studebaker tech tip meet one time and someone came in with a
55 Studebaker on a flatbed trailer.  One of the front brakes was
locked... the brakes would feel normal and the wheels would turn but if
you put on the brakes the right front wheel would lock and wouldn't
release for several minutes.

Turned out the problem was the brake hose... the original, fifty year
old brake hose.

They just don't make them like they used to! <G>

Jeff DeWitt
Jan - 15 May 2008 11:57 GMT
> Turned out the problem was the brake hose... the original, fifty year
> old brake hose.
>
> They just don't make them like they used to! <G>

Correct... they used to make cable operated brakes before they (VW)
switched to hydraulics :D

Jan
john - 15 May 2008 14:24 GMT
>> They just don't make them like they used to! <G>
>
> Correct... they used to make cable operated brakes before they (VW)
> switched to hydraulics :D

And that's the only thing about the old Bugs that spooked me when I learned
it.  But I'd put up with it if I could find a Splittie I could afford. NO!
Strike that. One I could afford would be handed over in a potato sack of
rust and dust.

For you, Jan - it's 46F here. Last week we had bad frost. Cheers!
Jan - 16 May 2008 01:17 GMT
>>> They just don't make them like they used to! <G>
>> Correct... they used to make cable operated brakes before they (VW)
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>
> For you, Jan - it's 46F here. Last week we had bad frost. Cheers!

80-something down here, you are more than welcome to drop by, plant your
 hiney by the pool and soak up the sun... while I bust my a$$ working
at Firestone 11 hours a day. :(
Jeff DeWitt - 16 May 2008 02:20 GMT
>> Turned out the problem was the brake hose... the original, fifty year
>> old brake hose.
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>
> Jan

When did VW switch to hydraulic brakes?
P.J.Berg - 16 May 2008 02:52 GMT
>>> Turned out the problem was the brake hose... the original, fifty year  
>>> old brake hose.
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>
> When did VW switch to hydraulic brakes?

It varies with what country and wheter standard or deluxe.
Start here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen

Some info here pluss links:
http://www.cargurus.com/Cars/Overview-c6902-1954-Beetle.html

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P.J.Berg - 16 May 2008 02:54 GMT
>>>> Turned out the problem was the brake hose... the original, fifty year  
>>>> old brake hose.
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>
> It varies with what country and wheter standard or deluxe.

That should spell Whether...

J.

> Start here:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen
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>
> J.

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P.J.Berg - 14 May 2008 21:51 GMT
> Thanks, guys. I was wrong. This one is connected.
>
> The left front brake drum is dragging badly. Can't drive a block. I'll
> power-bleed the system and flush it all.  Would you guess offhand that  
> the
> brake cylinder for that wheel is shot?

It could simply be badly adjusted. Or the brake hose to that wheel could  
be swollen inside.
Try opening the bleeder screw and close it quickly, if this removes drag  
you have a swollen brake hose.
The next time you pump the pedal you will force the brakefluid past the  
swelling, but it will not return to the m.c. when pedal is released, hence  
the drag.

> Now before y'all call me stupid, lemmie to it first. I'm STUPID.  
> Actually,
> premature. Didn't want to crawl under in the rain but I finally did.

Crawling in the rain is never fun..

> One more question - there's this thing  in front of the left seat, like a
> round thing about this wide, see? And it's got a big button in the middle
> that makes a noise when I press it. What's it for? The big round thing I
> mean. I know the other is to call in the cattle. Pretty cool.

The big round thing is actually the tuning knob for the Intergalactic  
radio, it is recomended to a setting of 42.

J.

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Jeff DeWitt - 15 May 2008 01:37 GMT
>> Thanks, guys. I was wrong. This one is connected.
>>
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>
> J.

As I recall the Intergalactic radio is properly called an electronic
subeither device. <G>

Jeff DeWitt
john - 15 May 2008 02:33 GMT
> It could simply be badly adjusted. Or the brake hose to that wheel could
> be swollen inside.

It was fine when I parked it four years ago. :)

> Try opening the bleeder screw and close it quickly, if this removes drag
> you have a swollen brake hose.

Funny, but that's the first thing I did and yes, the drag went away until
the moment I put the brakes on.

> [... snip excellent explanation ...]

Thank, P.J. and Jim.

>> premature. Didn't want to crawl under in the rain but I finally did.
>
> Crawling in the rain is never fun..

Aw, it weren't so bad. I was too drunk to walk anywho.

> The big round thing is actually the tuning knob for the Intergalactic
> radio, it is recomended to a setting of 42.

Wow! It figgerz! There's a number 42 on the big clock right in front of the
big round knob. I'll try it!
Joey Tribiani - 15 May 2008 03:28 GMT
> Aw, it weren't so bad. I was too drunk to walk anywho.

now this i gotta call bullshit on....you quit drinking years ago.
john - 15 May 2008 14:21 GMT
> "john" <x@x.net> wrote in message

> > Aw, it weren't so bad. I was too drunk to walk anywho.

> now this i gotta call bullshit on....you quit drinking years ago.

Aw, Chris, but it's a good line. Why spoil it with reality?
Joey Tribiani - 15 May 2008 16:27 GMT
>> "john" <x@x.net> wrote in message
>
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>
> Aw, Chris, but it's a good line. Why spoil it with reality?

well, John, it *is* the internet.... you can be anything you want...hehe
KWW - 17 May 2008 12:14 GMT
> Thanks, guys. I was wrong. This one is connected.
>
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> that makes a noise when I press it. What's it for? The big round thing I
> mean. I know the other is to call in the cattle. Pretty cool.

That big round think is the point of mechanical failure.  The nut
holding it is loose. ;)  Your joke is funny.

Wow, putting a cap called "oil" on top of the brake reservoir.  AGGH!
Just glad you didn't fill it up with oil because it looked a bit low!!!
john - 17 May 2008 13:16 GMT
> Wow, putting a cap called "oil" on top of the brake reservoir.  AGGH! Just
> glad you didn't fill it up with oil because it looked a bit low!!!

Funny thing, but the cap fits perfectly, just as if made for the reservoir.
VWFilms - 17 May 2008 17:24 GMT
> > Wow, putting a cap called "oil" on top of the brake reservoir.  AGGH! Just
> > glad you didn't fill it up with oil because it looked a bit low!!!
>
> Funny thing, but the cap fits perfectly, just as if made for the reservoir.

Lady walks into FLAPS asking for a 710 cap.  Counterman has no idea of
what
she's talking about until he finally catches that she's looking at it
upside-down.

Jim
http://vwfilms.net/
john - 17 May 2008 23:09 GMT
> Lady walks into FLAPS asking for a 710 cap.  Counterman has no idea of
> what
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> Jim
> http://vwfilms.net/

Guy goes into a store and asks for a potato clock.
Clerk says, "Sorry, I never heard of a potato clock.
Guy says, "Well, my boss said I wouldn't be late all the time if I got a
potato clock."
bug '59 - 18 May 2008 21:27 GMT
">
> The left front brake drum is dragging badly. Can't drive a block. I'll
> power-bleed the system and flush it all.  Would you guess offhand that the
> brake cylinder for that wheel is shot?

AFAIK you can not power-bleed this system, there ate no threaths to screw
the bleeder cap on (asuming you power-bleed with pressure in stead of
vacuum)

Roger
john - 19 May 2008 01:03 GMT
> AFAIK you can not power-bleed this system, there ate no threaths to screw
> the bleeder cap on (asuming you power-bleed with pressure in stead of
> vacuum)

Of course I can power-bleed it (blow job, not vacuum). See Motive Products
http://www.motiveproducts.com/03adapters.html. In my case, I made the proper
cap at no expense. Shaggy has done the same for a different unit. In his
case I think he had to empty a bottle of pop into his tummy for the cap.

Keep in mind that the ACVW needs only 12-15 (max) pressure to do the job.
Jan - 19 May 2008 01:38 GMT
>> AFAIK you can not power-bleed this system, there ate no threaths to screw
>> the bleeder cap on (asuming you power-bleed with pressure in stead of
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Keep in mind that the ACVW needs only 12-15 (max) pressure to do the job.

I have made two power bleeder units from a VW beetle windshield washer
reservoir and a coke bottle cap...

Jan
bug '59 - 19 May 2008 17:56 GMT
> Of course I can power-bleed it (blow job, not vacuum). See Motive Products
> http://www.motiveproducts.com/03adapters.html. In my case, I made the
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Keep in mind that the ACVW needs only 12-15 (max) pressure to do the job.

Does your container have threaths on the inside then?
Mine uses an edge to secure the soft rubber(?) cap (no oil or anything
written on it)
Cool to know it IS possible to power-bleed it, i just don't have an adaptor
:o(

Roger
john - 19 May 2008 19:18 GMT
> Does your container have threaths on the inside then?

No, but they are not necessary. See the link I posted, scroll around and you
will see a chain, thumbscrew device that clamps the lid down on threadless
resevoirs. You can make it yourself. There are other ways to the same thing.

> Cool to know it IS possible to power-bleed it, i just don't have an
> adaptor :o(

Get thee to Ace Hardware and be happy.

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