>> 8 bucks for 4 oz. added to every 4-5 quarts of oil doesn't seem like a
>> cost effective way of combating the problem of not having ZDDP in
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> J.
I,ve been using an oil claimed to suit petrol and "light diesel engines".
Trying to put aside the placebo effect I,ve noticed that starting isnt
accompanied by the same noises as the usual petrol only. Definitely seems
quieter.
John
> >> 8 bucks for 4 oz. added to every 4-5 quarts of oil doesn't seem like a
> >> cost effective way of combating the problem of not having ZDDP in
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> > Or simply buy a Diesel spec oil which still contains Zinc..
Does that mean that the Shell Rotella oil they sell in local stores
does not have the zinc additive?
It would seem that adding the ZDDP (Plus) additive or Brad Penn oil
with zinc would best the best ways to go.
What about Royal Purple?
http://www.amazon.com/Grade-20W50-Partially-Synthetic-Motor/dp/B001HO35DW/ref=sr
_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=automotive&qid=1246476918&sr=1-1
http://www.royalpurple.com/
I would like to be able to buy it at a local store.
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> -- Randall
> >> 8 bucks for 4 oz. added to every 4-5 quarts of oil doesn't seem like a
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Does that mean that the Shell Rotella oil they sell in local stores
is for diesel engines that make a lot of soot and reduces the ZDDP to
a level not satisfactory for gasoline engines?
It would seem that adding the ZDDP (Plus) additive or even better
using Brad Penn oil with zinc would best the best ways to go.
What about Royal Purple?
http://www.amazon.com/Grade-20W50-Partially-Synthetic-Motor/dp/B001HO35DW/ref=sr
_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=automotive&qid=1246476918&sr=1-1
http://www.royalpurple.com/
I would like to be able to buy it at a local store.
P.J.Berg - 02 Jul 2009 02:41 GMT
>> >> 8 bucks for 4 oz. added to every 4-5 quarts of oil doesn't seem like
>> a
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> I would like to be able to buy it at a local store.
It means the Rotella has the desired zink content, does not soot(the
diesel itself does that) and stands up to the extreme bearing load a big
diesel goes through.
Yes, there are non diesel spec oils on the market which works well, Royal
purple has been mentioned, as have other small U.s. only companies.
Rotella has been around for a long time being made(blended) by a well
known company.
It is your money and your choice..
If you care to read through some of Rabys writings and less than
scientific testing(he swears to hands on..), he has come up with a small
U.s. blender which supposedly is great, his words not mine..
J.

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Bill - 05 Jul 2009 03:51 GMT
> > >> 8 bucks for 4 oz. added to every 4-5 quarts of oil doesn't seem like a
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I think the point is this:
If you have lots of money &/or just like to know that you have the
latest and greatest motor oil in your sump (& there's nothing wrong
with either) then there's really no argument to be made. My point was
based on value/price vs. the effective life of the motor oil. With
typical carb setups, any oil you put in there will have to be changed
in a relatively short time due to fuel contamination. While some of
the botique oils might not shear down as quickly, they'll still have
to be changed at a short OCI. Among the more reasonably priced oils,
the HDEO's for big-rigs are (IMO) the best, because they have to meet
the heavy demands of commercially operated diesel engines and don't
have to concern themself as much with negative effects on gasoline
auto cat converters. Certainly, some of the "true" synthetics like
Mobil1 15-50, RP, Amsoil, Redline, etc. are great oils, but maybe not
great enough to stretch out an OCI in a carbed motor when the same
money can buy multiple 5-gallon jugs of good HDEO allowing numerous
oil changes for the same (or less) money.
JMO.
Bill.