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Car Forum / Volkswagen / Air Cooled Volkswagen Cars / December 2003

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Hog Ring Upholstery

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Pete Cressman - 28 Dec 2003 15:49 GMT
Hey Everyone,

Ripped out the interior of the Beetle yesterday and have decided to
re-upholster the front and rear seats. I don't want to cheap out and use the
slip on upholstery kits, so I was looking at the Hog Ring kits that CIP
sells. The price is right, but I am wondering about installation...is it
really difficult or is it possible to do on my own?

As a sidebar note...when I pulled the carpet up in the cargo area behind the
backseat....there was NO RUST!!!!

Thanks,

Pete

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Chris Perdue - 28 Dec 2003 16:10 GMT
>From: "Pete Cressman"

>The price is right, but I am wondering about installation...is it
>really difficult or is it possible to do on my own?

its only about a 3 on the difficulty scale(ten being the hardest, and of course
this rating is *my* opinion). Go for it....one tip, make sure the seat covers
are *warm*....i know it is probably cold in your area this time of year, so
keep em inside and maybe even slightlywarm them with a hairdryer....

>As a sidebar note...when I pulled the carpet up in the cargo area behind the
>backseat....there was NO RUST!!!!

congrats....what i love is when you pull out the carpet and some assbag has cut
out a big hole or "flap" in the cargo area to make the starter more
accessible.....like it is really that hard to change from under the car....
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Pete Cressman - 28 Dec 2003 16:17 GMT
Is there a website that shows how to replace the upholstery with the Hog
Ring kit?

As for the body....I can't complain....considering I am the second owner of
the car, it hasn't been molested like my other Beetle was...

- Pete

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Chris Perdue - 28 Dec 2003 16:25 GMT
>From: "Pete Cressman"

>Is there a website that shows how to replace the upholstery with the Hog
>Ring kit?

can't help ya there Pete...i have heard that some of the upholstery people have
excellent videos...i just dove in head first the first time i did it(about
10-12 years ago)...wasn't that hard the interior kit i got at the time had some
"directions"...what a joke they were..

>As for the body....I can't complain....considering I am the second owner of
>the car, it hasn't been molested like my other Beetle was...

those "unmolested" beetles are getting harder to find...congrats..
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bob - 28 Dec 2003 16:50 GMT
> Is there a website that shows how to replace the upholstery with the Hog
> Ring kit?

 if you slip the new ones over the the old ones, like i did before, be sure
to cut off all the old piping with a razor knife, remove any buttons.  this
stuff will show thru the new ones.

 yeah, keep'em warm to make it easier.

 the hog rings are kinduv a no brainer. i used regular pliers instead of
the "hog ring pliers".  just look under the seat to see the originals (i
think they used them-memory probs) and you'll get the idea.

 to sew the buttons back on -if you have them, cut up a coat hanger, take
the longest piece, hammer one end flat, drill holes to make an "eye" and sew
away. works just fine.

 good luck

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wbc - 29 Dec 2003 08:24 GMT
Putting the new upholstery on is not hard, but take the time to do a
complete job.  Strip the seats of their old skins carefully using a
sharp razor knife, but don't cut into the pads if they are still in
good shape (not very likely, but you might get lucky.  Look for any
metal rods that are pushed into the edges of the old covers, you will
need to reuse them in the new covers.  Also, separate the backs from
the bottoms -- I know that seems obvious, but some people don't and
pay for it with a difficult and crappy job.  Check the seat frames and
springs for broken pieces and repair anything you can, including rusty
sections (seal with epoxy paint after wire brushing as much as you can
off.  My first job went smooth, looked good, but went to hell quick
because I didn't take the time to prep to frames before putting on new
foam pads and upholstery.  Anything sharp will work its way through
the covers eventually, and sooner than you think.  My biggest mistake
was not shelling out about $10 for some heavy canvas (sissel) to
stretch over the bare frames before putting on the pads.  Just
hog-ring the canvas to the frames so that it has some room to move
with the springs when sat on (you can even sew a few loops through the
canvas in the middle of the seat bottoms and backs to be sure).  And
some tips:

- make sure you don't break off any of those short points attached to
the frame; bend them up carefully with needlenose pliers, and use
something hard and flat to press them back down after the upholstery
is on.

- make sure you work with warmed-up vinyl (if that's what you have). I
put mine out in the summer sun for awhile, but I think you can use a
short spin in the clothes dryer if you turn them inside out first.

- great trick I used on the seat backs:  cover over the padding with a
kitchen trash bag, just "bag" the seat back, pull the upholstery down
over the back with ease, then reach up and tear the bag out from the
inside -- quick, easy and smooth....

- find a wood box or something similar to press the seat bottoms down
on (upside-down of course) to compress the springs and padding before
you secure the covers.

The rest I think you can figure out, just remember to take your time
in preparation for the covers, but know you must work quick to get the
covers in place while they are warm and pliable.  If you have trouble
with one, don't force the issue, just pull it off, warm it up again
and give it another shot.

I can't think of anything else critical...good luck
 
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