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Car Forum / Volkswagen / Air Cooled Volkswagen Cars / December 2003

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'71 Beetle buying tips

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Bruno Hach? - 29 Dec 2003 01:05 GMT
Hello group,

After a lengthy search, I have found a potential VW Beetle I am
contemplating purchasing.

First: It's a '71 with 73,000 miles.  I have been told that this is the
first year of the Super Beetle?

Two. The car hasn't been driven since 1995. Anything special I should be
looking for except rust? I assume the motor might be seized up, not sure -
vehicle is located 200+ km away from home.

Thanks to all,
Bruno Hache
Max Welton - 29 Dec 2003 01:19 GMT
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 01:05:37 GMT, Bruno Haché <brunoh@weirnb.sympatico.ca>
wrote:

> Hello group,
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Thanks to all,
> Bruno Hache

Things that don't like to sit:

1) Brakes: Plan on replacing all the soft lines and possibly the master
and slave cylinders. Brake fluid can attract moisture and rubber dries out.

2) Fuel system: Rubber lines dry out. Any leftover gas will have gone bad.
Any water in the fuel will have been sitting in the bottom of the tank.
Check for rust.

3) Tires: The rubber dries out and may also have developed flat-spots from
sitting.

4) Emergency brake: The rear brake shoes may have frozen to the drums if
it was parked with the e-brake set.

5) Battery: 8 years without a charge? It's toast.

6) Check the seats (and the est of the car) for mouse nests.

Max
Speedy Jim - 29 Dec 2003 01:42 GMT
Bruno Haché wrote:

> Hello group,
>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Thanks to all,
> Bruno Hache

Yes, '71 was first year for the Super. But, the Standard Beetle was
made as well.  Find out first which you are buying.
In Supers, the spare tire lays flat in the trunk, Standard has the
spare sitting upright.
Supers have McPherson struts.
Supers are notorious for having front end shimmy and wobble.
That's not to say it can't be fixed with generous helpings of
replacement parts...
Do a GOOGLE Advanced search on this group for "shimmy".

Buying a car in Canada is like buying tickets in a lottery;
there is bound to be rust, finding out how much is the challenge.
(I'm in Cleveland, OH)

John Henry has a buying guide on his web site;
http://www.thebugshop.org/

Speedy Jim
http://www.nls.net/mp/volks/
Bruno Hach? - 30 Dec 2003 00:03 GMT
Thanks to all. I never thought I'd spend over three hours just reading on
www.thebugshop.org!

Definitely a nice resource.

BTW, I don't think I'm buying that Beetle. The car has originally been in a
front-end collision..

Cheers,
Bruno Hache
Chris Perdue - 30 Dec 2003 00:12 GMT
>From: "Bruno Haché"

>Thanks to all. I never thought I'd spend over three hours just reading on
>www.thebugshop.org!

only three hours bruno?...seems you are just getting started....LOL
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Chris Perdue
*All opinions are those of the author of this post*
"Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug"
http://hometown.aol.com/bugninva/MAINPAGE.html
to reply take your PANTS off
Bruno Hach? - 30 Dec 2003 02:13 GMT
Yeah, I'm just starting on the Beetle craze. It's been a lifelong dream to
own one, now I feel like it's time.

Bruno
Michael Kelly - 30 Dec 2003 03:17 GMT
"Bruno Hach�������������������������������" wrote:
> Yeah, I'm just starting on the Beetle craze. It's been a lifelong dream to
> own one, now I feel like it's time.

    Come to CA... California, buy one that's been in the desert.  Drive it
back home.  The inland areas of California are notoriously arid, hence
little rust on the cars.  Besides, classic bugs are being melted down at
a fantastic rate.

    The most important place to not find rust is the floors.

    Mike.
Chris Perdue - 30 Dec 2003 03:53 GMT
>From: Michael Kelly

>    The most important place to not find rust is the floors.

floors are minor....heater channels are the key to a solid car
-------------------
Chris Perdue
*All opinions are those of the author of this post*
"Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug"
http://hometown.aol.com/bugninva/MAINPAGE.html
to reply take your PANTS off
Bruno Hach? - 30 Dec 2003 17:58 GMT
> Come to CA... California, buy one that's been in the desert.  Drive it
> back home.  The inland areas of California are notoriously arid, hence
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>
> Mike.

Eh.. Would a Beetle tough a 7,300km trip?

Bruno
Ilambert - 30 Dec 2003 22:31 GMT
Agood one will,and most of them are .Steve

> > Come to CA... California, buy one that's been in the desert.  Drive it
> > back home.  The inland areas of California are notoriously arid, hence
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Bruno
Michael Kelly - 31 Dec 2003 08:12 GMT
"Bruno Hach�������������������������������" wrote:

>>Come to CA... California, buy one that's been in the desert.  Drive it
>>back home.  The inland areas of California are notoriously arid, hence
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Bruno

    I suppose so, I bought a 70 bug for $375 last year, pretty rough,
toasted wiring, and have put on over 10k miles, what's that, about
13,000km.  I have replaced all the wheel bearings, entire brake system,
CV boots, entire wiring harness, re-built the distrubitor, electronic
ignition, just bought the entire urethane bushing kit from AirCooled.net.

    I thought you were in BC, that's only about 1300km.
Max Welton - 30 Dec 2003 00:17 GMT
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 00:03:17 GMT, Bruno Haché <brunoh@weirnb.sympatico.ca>
wrote:

> Thanks to all. I never thought I'd spend over three hours just reading on
> www.thebugshop.org!

Been there, done that!

Max
BugBum - 30 Dec 2003 01:33 GMT
Not to sound like a whiney Canadian but not all bugs here are rusty.
Canada is a fairly large country.with some warm dry places.

--
Anna
Vancouver Island, BC
65 Bahama Blue Bug "Bebe Jones"
79 Auto Westy "Avy"
58 Panel Van "Glenn"
58 Panel Van "Selah"

> > Hello group,
> >
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
>  Speedy Jim
> http://www.nls.net/mp/volks/
Pete Cressman - 30 Dec 2003 01:32 GMT
Yeah...BC....the rest of  us get to know the sheet metal section of our fav.
restoration catalog really well...

- Pete

> Not to sound like a whiney Canadian but not all bugs here are rusty.
> Canada is a fairly large country.with some warm dry places.
[quoted text clipped - 42 lines]
> >  Speedy Jim
> > http://www.nls.net/mp/volks/
Tim Rogers - 30 Dec 2003 03:20 GMT
> Not to sound like a whiney Canadian but not all bugs here are rusty.
> Canada is a fairly large country.with some warm dry places.

...................You can't roller skate in a buffalo herd. You can't take
a shower in a parakeet cage. You can't get warm & dry up north unless you
stay indoors.............lol
BergRace - 31 Dec 2003 04:25 GMT
> Not to sound like a whiney Canadian but not all bugs here are rusty.
> Canada is a fairly large country.with some warm dry places.

Like, where??
I've been to Canada, unfortunately only the cold spot(s)  :0)

J.

> --
> Anna
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> >  Speedy Jim
> > http://www.nls.net/mp/volks/
Bruno Hach? - 31 Dec 2003 16:28 GMT
I'm in New Brunswick, Canada (east coast)

Bruno
Michael Kelly - 31 Dec 2003 22:42 GMT
"Bruno Hach�������������������������������" wrote:
> I'm in New Brunswick, Canada (east coast)
>
> Bruno

    That's what, like 3,000 miles?  I did that in one week.  Granted it was
june, and in a big olds 98.  You really get to know your tape collection.
BugBum - 31 Dec 2003 19:20 GMT
I can't spell it but the Okonogon (near the interior of BC)
Places around Vancouver that don't use a lot of salt on their roads

And there are places in Alberta where it's too cold to use salt. etc. etc.

--
Anna
Vancouver Island, BC
65 Bahama Blue Bug "Bebe Jones"
79 Auto Westy "Avy"
58 Panel Van "Glenn"
58 Panel Van "Selah"

> > Not to sound like a whiney Canadian but not all bugs here are rusty.
> > Canada is a fairly large country.with some warm dry places.
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> > >  Speedy Jim
> > > http://www.nls.net/mp/volks/
 
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