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Car Forum / Volkswagen / Air Cooled Volkswagen Cars / February 2007

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JJ - 14 Feb 2007 02:33 GMT
Okay, so my lady's (mumble, mumble) American car is losing air in the
front tires like crazy. It's winter. She's got aluminum rims. I can't
believe we got slow rubber/compound leaks in both at once.

IF the issue is the rims, can something be done to seal 'em up? Do I
have to (or can I) put tubes in 'em? I don't want to buy another pair of
crappy aluminum rims.

FWIW, the BRMs are just fine on the Bugs.
Berg - 14 Feb 2007 02:40 GMT
> Okay, so my lady's (mumble, mumble) American car is losing air in the
> front tires like crazy. It's winter. She's got aluminum rims. I can't
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>
> FWIW, the BRMs are just fine on the Bugs.

Check for leaks around the rubber valve stems, if they leak let all the
air out and viggle/twist them around. Then refill.
Use any liquid to check for leaks, a tad soap helps..

J.
Gmlyle@scvnet.com - 22 Feb 2007 02:46 GMT
>> Okay, so my lady's (mumble, mumble) American car is losing air in the
>> front tires like crazy. It's winter. She's got aluminum rims. I can't
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> J.

If it's a couple of pounds per day the actual rate that air comes out is
slow, perhaps too slow for soapy water to make the lead apparent.  The last
time I had that problem I immersed the entire rim in a kiddie pool and
waited a few minutes.  A fine stream of tiny bubbles led directly to the rim
leak.  A little wire-brushing fixed it right up.
Joey Tribiani - 14 Feb 2007 11:24 GMT
> Okay, so my lady's (mumble, mumble) American car is losing air in the
> front tires like crazy. It's winter. She's got aluminum rims. I can't
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> FWIW, the BRMs are just fine on the Bugs.

if the temperature allows spray soapy water around the bead area....if temp
is too low put some low temp windshield washer fluid in a spray bottle and
spray it around the bead area...watch for bubbles.... my 1972 porsche
pedrini wheels are a pain in the a.s this way...two work fine, two don't
seal for crap....i broke them down and siliconed the beads...problems
gone....you can use tubes...
Dennis - 14 Feb 2007 13:37 GMT
> > Okay, so my lady's (mumble, mumble) American car is losing air in the
> > front tires like crazy. It's winter. She's got aluminum rims. I can't
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> seal for crap....i broke them down and siliconed the beads...problems
> gone....you can use tubes...

I have the same problem with my Mazda.  I had two tires removed and
reseated with new valves and those two hold air now.  The other two
leak about 8 lbs per day now.  I don't know if it was the rim seal or
valve stems.  It makes no difference since you have to break the seal
to change the valve stem anyway.  Dennis
JJ - 15 Feb 2007 15:56 GMT
> if the temperature allows spray soapy water around the bead area....if temp
> is too low put some low temp windshield washer fluid in a spray bottle and
> spray it around the bead area...watch for bubbles

Thanks. I did that earlier (added some clinical detergent to make the
washer fluid bubbly). No leaks on the outside of the rims. I was going
to remove each wheel but it was so cold that the air compressor froze up
solid after a minute. No air impact wrench now. I'll take the car to the
local repair guys and have them removed, checked, and tubes put in.

Thank you again.
Jan - 15 Feb 2007 01:21 GMT
> Okay, so my lady's (mumble, mumble) American car is losing air in the
> front tires like crazy. It's winter. She's got aluminum rims. I can't
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> FWIW, the BRMs are just fine on the Bugs.

I had the tire shop use some sort of glue when they popped the tires off
and put them back on because of leaks. Rusty steel rims... did not seal
right. Your alu rims may have corrosion on the sealing surface,
preventing a good seal. Scrape the most of it off and use a sealing
compound of some kind.. the better tire shops should know.

Jan
Berg - 15 Feb 2007 02:54 GMT
> Okay, so my lady's (mumble, mumble) American car is losing air in the
> front tires like crazy. It's winter. She's got aluminum rims. I can't
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> FWIW, the BRMs are just fine on the Bugs.

Any liquid sealant should work with such a slow leak, however do check
the valve stems like I mentioned earlier.

Another thing to watch out for if this is a new car/new rims with "new"
leaks, look for injection strings caught between the rim and tire.
Last year we had a problem with this on new Vespas..

If you see any of the rubber "hairs" caught between the rim and tire,
loosen tire pluck(yes, pluck) all the offending injection strings,
refill the tire to the max of the compressor output(In my case aprox 90
Psi), and lower to correct pressure. Then: Bob's your uncle and all is fine.

J.
 
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