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Car Forum / Volkswagen / Water Cooled Volkswagen Cars / May 2004

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2002 Jetta 2.0 Burning Oil?

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Dave Cobb - 29 May 2004 05:47 GMT
My 2.0L '02 Jetta GLS with 23k miles seems to be down about a 1/2 quart of
oil (Mobil 1) for every 1000-2000 miles. There are no signs of leaks on the
garage floor, etc... Also I seem to be hearing a slight "ticking" noise from
the engine while it is idling... I think the ticking is either a lifter.. or
the belt tensioner.. but can't be too sure. The car runs great and has no
other issues.

Anyway, I'd like to have this stuff checked under warranty.. is there
anything in particular I should ask the dealer to check when I take it in?

Thanks, Dave
Jo Bo - 29 May 2004 12:13 GMT
Dave.

Car makers all have different criteria of how much oil consumption is too
much. Some better or worse then others. None of them are willing replace
engines for oil burning. As I recall ford is the worse but I could be wrong.
I think your fighting a loosing battle unless it gets more then twice as bad
as it is. Your right, it should not burn oil at all. My 93 Eurovan and 99.5
jetta tdi both have over 100k miles and use no oil. I use 5w-40 synthetic in
both. Last I recall was around a quart every 700 miles was the figure
considered excessive and I know that reeks! Before going to the dealer read
the owners manual and see what you can find. My son's 92 jetta gl with 130k
miles uses about the same amount of oil as yours does.

Good luck
JoBo

> My 2.0L '02 Jetta GLS with 23k miles seems to be down about a 1/2 quart of
> oil (Mobil 1) for every 1000-2000 miles. There are no signs of leaks on the
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> Thanks, Dave
Dave Cobb - 29 May 2004 15:38 GMT
I was also curious if I should thell them that I was using Mobil 1 Synthetic
5-30... they might say... "that's not an approved oil.. yadda yadda... your
SOL"

> Dave.
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Woodchuck - 29 May 2004 17:09 GMT
Mobil 1 exceeded the factory spec! Should not be an issue!

> I was also curious if I should thell them that I was using Mobil 1 Synthetic
> 5-30... they might say... "that's not an approved oil.. yadda yadda... your
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> > > Thanks, Dave
Woodchuck - 29 May 2004 12:15 GMT
Stating the engine uses a 1/2 quart in 1000 or 2000 miles isn't very
accurate information. Doing the math that comes out to 1 quart in 2000 or
4000 miles, which then would be considered acceptable by VW standards. So...
what's a owner to do? Well the next time you need a oil change have the
dealer do a oil consumption test which warranty will pay for. But basically
what happens is the dealer changes the oil, you keep checking the oil level
and bring the car back in when it's a quart low. As for the ticking, are you
sure it's not just the injectors working?

> My 2.0L '02 Jetta GLS with 23k miles seems to be down about a 1/2 quart of
> oil (Mobil 1) for every 1000-2000 miles. There are no signs of leaks on the
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> Thanks, Dave
AH - 29 May 2004 14:54 GMT
Dave,

See VW TSB C17-01-01.  If possible, you could always start the test at a VW
dealer, and then visit your local marina to purchase an inboard engine oil
extractor...

Good luck - I don't think modern engines should burn this much oil.

Andrew

> My 2.0L '02 Jetta GLS with 23k miles seems to be down about a 1/2 quart of
> oil (Mobil 1) for every 1000-2000 miles. There are no signs of leaks on the
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> Thanks, Dave
Dave Cobb - 29 May 2004 15:39 GMT
Where di I find the TSB ?
Thanks!

> Dave,
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> Andrew
Dave Cobb - 29 May 2004 17:05 GMT
Got it AH...   Thanks!

> Where di I find the TSB ?
> Thanks!
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Woodchuck - 29 May 2004 17:11 GMT
Gee, sounds like you want the owner to cheat by removing oil just to get
engine work done! Aren't ALL VW owners honest when they visit the dealer?

> Dave,
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> > Thanks, Dave
AH - 29 May 2004 19:39 GMT
Woodchuck,

This is not aimed at you as I have read many of your knowledgeable replies
helping many listers in the past.  If you are a dealership owner, you are an
exception.

I do not believe VW dealers are always forthcoming, honest, helpful, and act
on behalf of the customer.

What comes around goes around.

> Gee, sounds like you want the owner to cheat by removing oil just to get
> engine work done! Aren't ALL VW owners honest when they visit the dealer?
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> > > Thanks, Dave
Biz - 30 May 2004 04:07 GMT
> Woodchuck,
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> What comes around goes around.

That doesnt just apply to VW dealers, in fact, IMHO, it applies to pretty
much any brand of auto.  Some dealers will be great, others will be lousy.
Dave Cobb - 30 May 2004 05:45 GMT
It is my perception that dealers are generally quite eager to do warranty
work as it is extra income for them, but service reps are often too stupid
(about modern auto mechanics) to order the proper tests or repairs... Thus
my experience is that you should get as much insider information as possible
before you make the dreaded visit to the service department and waste hours
of your precious time.

> Woodchuck,
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> > > > Thanks, Dave
Michael Pearlman - 30 May 2004 03:17 GMT
> My 2.0L '02 Jetta GLS with 23k miles seems to be down about a 1/2 quart of
> oil (Mobil 1) for every 1000-2000 miles. There are no signs of leaks on the
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> Thanks, Dave

Our 2002 Jetta 2.0 does the same with respect to oil and also has the
tick. I thought it was a lifter but the tech at the dealer said he
could not hear it. Ours is a made in Germany station wagon. Yours?
Dave Cobb - 30 May 2004 05:36 GMT
Mine is the regular GLS sedan, made in Mexico.

> > My 2.0L '02 Jetta GLS with 23k miles seems to be down about a 1/2 quart of
> > oil (Mobil 1) for every 1000-2000 miles. There are no signs of leaks on the
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> tick. I thought it was a lifter but the tech at the dealer said he
> could not hear it. Ours is a made in Germany station wagon. Yours?
CheetoDust - 31 May 2004 02:01 GMT
> My 2.0L '02 Jetta GLS with 23k miles seems to be down about a 1/2 quart of
> oil (Mobil 1) for every 1000-2000 miles. There are no signs of leaks on the
> garage floor, etc... Also I seem to be hearing a slight "ticking" noise from
> the engine while it is idling... I think the ticking is either a lifter.. or
> the belt tensioner.. but can't be too sure. The car runs great and has no
> other issues.

My 99.5 burns a quart every 1000 to 1500. My last car (90 Fox) didn't
do that, but I can handle putting a $4 bottle of oil in every few
months, so I guess I'll live with it. As for the ticking, both my
Fox and the Jetta did that from day 1, and nothing ever came of it.
The Fox lasted 12 years and 150000+ miles without need of
any major engine work and the Jetta is at 5 (knock wood). I think
it's just the way VW engines are.

...Sean.
 
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