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Car Forum / Volkswagen / Water Cooled Volkswagen Cars / September 2006

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94 golf rough idle questions

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Jeremy - 22 Sep 2006 02:31 GMT
Hi all,

A few more questions surrounding my VW Golf, that I've been meaning to bring
here for a month or so but haven't yet... until now! :)

I don't know too much about the history of the car, have only owned it since
March, and it currently sits at around 300,050 kms (or, according to the
odometer: 50).

In June, I took the car on a road trip from Vancouver, BC to Los Angeles,
CA. For the most part I was very impressed with its performance, even with 3
adults in the vehicle. Great fuel consumption, didn't burn too much oil, fun
car to drive! On the trip back, though, I started to notice some performance
issues... it started idling too low, and would stall almost anytime I pushed
the clutch in and took my foot of the gas. (This made the 45 minute wait in
the border crossing lineup more frustrating than usual!) I also noticed that
when I started it that morning, it was idling very rough, and the entire
engine was shaking considerably. The signs at that point, I thought, were
pointing toward a problem with the fuel injectors, and ran some injector
cleaner additive through it once. This cleaned up the problem quite a bit,
and for the most part since, the car has run without stalling.

Every once in a while though, I will start it and it will run poorly -
missing at idle, almost stalling or stalling at stop signs, etc. The
annoying thing is that I haven't found any common link, it seems to just
randomly pick days to run more rough than usual. Hot, cold, rain, sun, gas
tank ful, gas tank low, gas tank in the middle, etc. And of course anytime a
real mechanic looks at it, it runs like a dream.

At driving speeds it is typically great, although occasionally I notice it
running a bit rough at lower speeds (in 1st gear in particular) - suddenly
jerking forward while holding the gas steady in a parknig lot for instance,
or the RPMs suddenly dropping as though I had let my foot of the gas, etc.

Also, now that the weather's starting to get a bit colder in the mornings,
I've noticed that it tends to start a little harder in colder mornings,
seems to just barely turn over. One morning, it didn't turn over the first
time, I waited 30 seconds then tried again and it started, ran very rough
for the 1 km drive to the Tim Horton's coffee shop where I turned it off to
get a coffee and donut, then when I came out and started it again a minute
later, ran perfectly the rest of the day.

Add to the mix a Check Engine light that comes on intermittently, and always
goes out within a day, if not a couple hours. It typically comes on about 15
minutes into a trip at highway speeds. I was told by the local VW dealer not
to worry about having them read the code until the light comes on and stays
on, or else I would probably find an inconclusive reading. (Does the
computer store the codes after the engine light goes off?)

Anyway, that's a summary of all the details I can think of. I took it from
BC to Montana and back a couple weeks ago (12 hours each way) and it
performed admirably the whole way, so I don't think I have major problems...
but would like to be able to do as much as I can to fix things myself...

Any suggestions as far as things I should be looking at, testing, replacing,
draining, etc? :)

Thanks folks...

Jeremy
Joe - 23 Sep 2006 12:34 GMT
> I don't know too much about the history of the car, have only owned it
> since March, and it currently sits at around 300,050 kms (or, according to
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> performance issues... it started idling too low, and would stall almost
> anytime I pushed the clutch in and took my foot of the gas.

Going on the assumption its a petrol? and prices in USD
As its a high mileage car have you checked the service history? You don't
say if it has been serviced recently or if any of the essentials have been
replaced. Fuel filter will be heavily clogged at that mileage ($30 for
filter 4hrs to do if you've never done it before), ask the mechanic to give
the throttle body a good physical clean (less than $20) . Replace the air
filter, if its clogged the car will cough for air. Distributor and rotar arm
will need replacing as they are basically two metal points banging against
each other ($20 very cheap and easy to do yourself ). Spark plugs ($10 cheap
and easy to do), leads if they look old and worn ($25).

Haynes Manual service intervals
Oil change; 7,500km
Renew airfilter; every 2yrs regardless of mileage or every 30,000km
Renew spark plugs; 30,000km
Renew fuel filter; 90,000km
Renew timing belt; 90,000km (castrophic failure if not replaced or at least
checked) expensive to replace belt!

if you need service intervals for diesel let me know.
Jeremy - 26 Sep 2006 02:24 GMT
> Going on the assumption its a petrol? and prices in USD

yup

> As its a high mileage car have you checked the service history? You don't
> say if it has been serviced recently or if any of the essentials have been
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Spark plugs ($10 cheap and easy to do), leads if they look old and worn
> ($25).

Thanks for the ideas! Some I've already done (spark plugs/wires, air
filter), and others I haven't, so I will put those next on the list! (fuel
filter, distributer/rotor, throttle body cleaning).

> Haynes Manual service intervals
> Oil change; 7,500km
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>
> if you need service intervals for diesel let me know.

Again, thanks for the helpful response! It is appreciated by a relative
novice like myself. :)

Thanks,
jeremy
 
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