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93 VW Golf Diesel

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tnkgrl7 - 19 Dec 2006 08:44 GMT
I know that all VW's have their quirks, but is it normal when you take
your foot off the pedal and it jolts and decelerates quick?. I know
that it's normal for automatic gas any make, but is it for VW?. Or is
their an equallizer/pressure valve somewhere to prevent this?.
none2u - 20 Dec 2006 01:01 GMT
Diesels yes, They have a lot of low end torque. I'm assuming you have a
manual trans.It  Is especially true in low gear with the revs up a bit . The
jolt is the eng/ trans rocking against the mounts . let off the gas and it
decelerates fast. It will do the same thing hard on and off the gas. The
front mount is solid rubber , Some people put in a hydraulic one cause its
available and cheaper. It may be worn . Quite common for the mount to go
bad.  You could drive easier or check your engine and trans mounts .
>I know that all VW's have their quirks, but is it normal when you take
> your foot off the pedal and it jolts and decelerates quick?. I know
> that it's normal for automatic gas any make, but is it for VW?. Or is
> their an equallizer/pressure valve somewhere to prevent this?.
HANK - 20 Dec 2006 04:26 GMT
Hi,
i had a 92 jetta turbo diesel and it had the same thing. Am quite sure
its normal. Diesels fire on compression and no fuel going to the
engine when you lift off will slow down the car. You can use that to
your advantage by lifting off the gas pedal well before coming up to
aa red light and not using the brake pedal unless you really have to
(much like compression braking in semi`s, saves brakes in the long
run.

> I know that all VW's have their quirks, but is it normal when
> you take
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> VW?. Or is
> their an equallizer/pressure valve somewhere to prevent this?.

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tnkgrl7 - 20 Dec 2006 09:14 GMT
Awsome, thanks guys. This damn car is driving me off the deep end. So
many problems, so little money. What would be best for my POS, it
started pissing diesel like it was free, so the seals in the injector
pump are done, should I re-ring it or just get a new pump?. I was
told(not sure if it is correct) that the diesel fuel has changed over
the past few months and is drying up all the seals, has anyone heard of
this?. I'm in Guelph, Ontario, unless its the water, lol.
Bryan K. Walton - 20 Dec 2006 16:01 GMT
> started pissing diesel like it was free, so the seals in the injector
> pump are done, should I re-ring it or just get a new pump?. I was
> told(not sure if it is correct) that the diesel fuel has changed over
> the past few months and is drying up all the seals, has anyone heard of
> this?. I'm in Guelph, Ontario, unless its the water, lol.

I'm experiencing the same thing at this very moment in my '84 Rabbit.
The US switched to ULSD this fall.  As I understand it, the technology
that reduces the sulphur in the fuel, also removes much of the
lubricity.  All it took was burning about 10-15 gallons of the new
stuff and my IP has sprung a leak.  At this moment, I'm assessing my
options.  I made a call to a diesel injection service place yesterday.
The guy on the phone said they have been swamped with IP repairs this
fall.  As for resealing versus rebuilding, there are pros and cons.
The reseal is much cheaper.  He (located in Iowa) quoted me $175 to
reseal it.  Rebuilding it would be closer to $550.  However, there are
a few places that sell remanufactured Bosch IPs for $400.  I haven't
made up my mind yet, but I'm leaning toward this last option.  I'm
grimacing at the total cost which is probably going to cost me around
$550 after installation.  But at least I'll have a rebuilt pump and no
leaks.  (BTW, both Parts Place and VW Diesel Parts have the
remanufactured IPs for $399.  But this cost is for mine.  I believe
yours might be even more expensive.)

Good luck,
Bryan

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none2u - 20 Dec 2006 16:27 GMT
The shaft seal is replacable for 6 bucks last time I bought one.

>> started pissing diesel like it was free, so the seals in the injector
>> pump are done, should I re-ring it or just get a new pump?. I was
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> Good luck,
> Bryan
tnkgrl7 - 23 Dec 2006 08:44 GMT
Try this link, there is a bit of stuff for your rabbit,(i love those
cars) wish I could get one again. Every now and again you will get
lucky and find lots of parts.
http://search.ebay.ca/1984-vw-rabbit_W0QQfcdZ2QQfclZ3QQfnuZ1QQfsooZ1QQsfopZ1
tnkgrl7 - 23 Dec 2006 08:47 GMT
Also, call the scrap yard and get them to cross refrence the IP,
something else might fit that is more readily available. I did that
with my fuel distributer for my passat, jetta fit and works well. Good
luck.
Harry 1 - 25 Dec 2006 22:13 GMT
> All it took was burning about 10-15 gallons of the new
> stuff and my IP has sprung a leak.  At this moment, I'm assessing my
> options.  I made a call to a diesel injection service place yesterday.
> The guy on the phone said they have been swamped with IP repairs

Yeah, I have leak too. There is a guy on Ebay with 100 per cent positive who
reseals *working* injector pumps for $115 with a day or two turnaround. The
item number is 250061848563 probably finished auction when this is read but
is contactable. There are also reseal kits on Ebay for 29 bucks.

I have a new front seal to put on but I can't tell where my leak is fully
assembled. I will have to pull the shroud on top and see if it is visible
leaking, other than that as long as it is not real bad, not having a garage,
I will do it in spring.

Harry
Jim Behning - 26 Dec 2006 00:31 GMT
>> All it took was burning about 10-15 gallons of the new
>> stuff and my IP has sprung a leak.  At this moment, I'm assessing my
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> Harry

There is/was a thread on tdiclub.com about this. It looks fairly easy to
change the o ring on some diesels with a few tools, a special bolt and
some duck tape. I think there is a link at dieselgeek.
http://www.dieselgeek.com/Detail.bok?no=430
http://www.dieselgeek.com/TDI_Injection_Pump_Head_Seal_Replacement.htm

I guess the 1993 is not covered by the article but there is a chance the
concept is the same. Be clean and do not lose anything. If I guy is
offering to reseal for $100 then one might assume it is less than a 2
hour job assuming that he wants to work for a living wage. Experience
speeds the process up a lot.
dave AKA vwdoc1 - 26 Dec 2006 04:49 GMT
I have heard about this new fuel creating problems due to the lack of
lubricating properties.
Can one just add some proper lubricant to the fuel during a fillup to stop
the seal problem?
The seals are drying up and splitting right?

I have even heard of some adding motor oil, either new or well filtered to
the fuel to help lubricate.

Just curious,
dave
(One out of many daves)

>> All it took was burning about 10-15 gallons of the new
>> stuff and my IP has sprung a leak.  At this moment, I'm assessing my
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> Harry
 
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