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blown head gasket?

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Ears - 21 May 2007 03:39 GMT
What are some symptoms of a blown head gasket, besides white smoke?

Is there a way to diagnose the problem without removing the head?
deus - 21 May 2007 04:11 GMT
>What are some symptoms of a blown head gasket, besides white smoke?

Misfires, mysterious coolant loss, and oil/coolant mixing together in
either the crankcase or cooling system. Plenty of other symptoms to
add to the list, but that's just a few basic examples. On another
note, very slight head gasket leaks may sometimes be a little more
trickier to diagnose.

>Is there a way to diagnose the problem without removing the head?

Inspect the plugs, chemical block test, compression tests, leak down
tests, and vacuum gauge readings come to the top of my head.

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deus
keithstinson@gmail.com - 21 May 2007 04:46 GMT
> What are some symptoms of a blown head gasket, besides white smoke?
>
> Is there a way to diagnose the problem without removing the head?

The exact symptom depends on where the head gasket blows.  If it blows
between an oil jacket and the cylinder you will have blue smoke and
low oil pressure, possibly some pre-ignition knocking, and fouled
spark plugs.  If it blows between the oil jacket and the outside of
the block you will have an oil leak and low oil pressure.  If it blows
between the coolant passage and cylinder you have white smoke, mis-
firing, fouled/damaged plugs, and if there is enough coolant in the
cylinders then you can bend the rods/damage pistons.  If it blows
between the cylinders you won't get the typical smoke rather you will
get a severe cross fire.  The car will fight itself and sound like a
lawn mower.  Everyone points to white/blue smoke but that is only if
you are getting coolant/oil in the cylinder.
keithstinson@gmail.com - 21 May 2007 04:48 GMT
> What are some symptoms of a blown head gasket, besides white smoke?
>
> Is there a way to diagnose the problem without removing the head?

Leak down testing can accurately diagnosis a head gasket
pfjw@aol.com - 21 May 2007 12:34 GMT
> What are some symptoms of a blown head gasket, besides white smoke?
>
> Is there a way to diagnose the problem without removing the head?

The very earliest symptom of a blown head-gasket is pressure in the
cooling system even after the car is dead-cold. So, if you remove the
overflow tank cap and it gives a distinct *POP*, then the gasket is
blown.

Also as another mentioned, a leak-down test.

Consider also that all the symptoms described elsewhere could be due
to a warped or cracked  head, this due to overheating or running with
low coolant. So, if you do have to remove the head to replace the
gasket, check it for "flat" and for any cracks. Don't want to be the
bearer of bad tidings, but don't 'assume' in this case.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA
news.wildblue.net - 21 May 2007 20:14 GMT
check to see if there is HC(hrdrocarbons) in the coolant bottle. Test with
gas analyzer.

> What are some symptoms of a blown head gasket, besides white smoke?
>
> Is there a way to diagnose the problem without removing the head?
Kafertoys@aol.com - 22 May 2007 04:11 GMT
> check to see if there is HC(hrdrocarbons) in the coolant bottle. Test with
> gas analyzer.
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I just replaced a head gasket on a 94 golf because of no compresion,
the head was warped so I had it shaved and tested. I think there was
other damage. dose the  "in 02 "  that comes up on the dash milage
display?  it started first try but shut down and would not start
again. I have alreadt checked power at injectors, and spark at plugs.
I also have fuel at the end of fuel rail (7mm screw)

interested in any ideals. thanks

Mario
V.W.resto.
dave AKA vwdoc1 - 22 May 2007 04:57 GMT
Talk about a hijacked thread!  lol

The "in 02" will be a mileage activated reminder to have a service done to
the vehicle.

Is this a 2.0 engine?
So are you getting spark, fuel and compression?
How do the spark plugs look?  Wet and black?
I would suspect that ign coil and ONLY replace it with one from the dealer.
The aftermarket ones I have seen may last anywhere from 1 week to 1 year but
all of them I have seen fail.  :-(
I am told that the Engine Speed Sensor goes out a lot on the 2.0 engines.  I
don't think that I have had to change one yet except on a VR6, but must have
changed 6-8 ign coils for the various 2.0 engines.
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later,
dave
(One out of many daves)

> I just replaced a head gasket on a 94 golf because of no compresion,
> the head was warped so I had it shaved and tested. I think there was
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> Mario
> V.W.resto.
Jim Behning - 22 May 2007 12:43 GMT
>> check to see if there is HC(hrdrocarbons) in the coolant bottle. Test with
>> gas analyzer.
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>Mario
>V.W.resto.
Does shavng a warped head work on an overhead cam engine? I have seen
claims that unless you align bore the cam you have the cam running in
an unantural, un-engineered situation which should cause extreme wear
of the cam caps and resultant loss of oil pressure as the tolerances
increase.
I'm a Movie - 26 May 2007 03:20 GMT
I think my 81 diesel may have a blown head gasket.

There is pressure in the coolant bottle even when the car is cold and
I recently had to replace all of the hoses because they were starting
to bulge (I presume from excessive pressure).  Also, my coolant gets
very dirty looking within 1000 miles of a coolant change.
What I do not see is any smoke from the exhaust of any color and I see
absolutely no degradation of the engine power.

Do these symptoms sound like a head/gasket problem on a diesel?
If so , can I continue to run the car for a little while if I change
the coolant and oil frequently without causing additional damage?

I plan to do a total rebuild starting in late July (with a NEW head),
but I would like to keep driving it until then.

Craig O.

>What are some symptoms of a blown head gasket, besides white smoke?
>
>Is there a way to diagnose the problem without removing the head?

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dave AKA vwdoc1 - 26 May 2007 04:14 GMT
It might cost you more if you wait until the cylinder head cracks or other
possibly problems occur.
Instant swelling up of the coolant hoses would lead me to believe that the
cylinder head gasket is bad.

Oil getting on the coolant hoses could cause them to soften and swell/bulge.
Oil inside of the coolant system is usually the gasket if there is no oil
cooler on the engine.

JMHO
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later,
dave
(One out of many daves)

>I think my 81 diesel may have a blown head gasket.
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>>Is there a way to diagnose the problem without removing the head?
 
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