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Car Forum / Volkswagen / Water Cooled Volkswagen Cars / September 2007rear axel bushing
Hi everyone, I'd need a help on that one... I removed both of the rear axel bushings on my 97 Jetta... But it seems impossible to fit in the new ones: The are too tight to insert. Anyone know hoe to deal with that? Do I need to use a press to fit them in? Since I don't have one at home, any idea as how to insert those bushings into position without a bench press?? Thanks, Steph In rec.autos.makers.vw.watercooled, Steph wrote: >I removed both of the rear axel bushings on my 97 Jetta... But it >seems impossible to fit in the new ones: The are too tight to insert. > >Anyone know hoe to deal with that? Do I need to use a press to fit >them in? Since I don't have one at home, any idea as how to insert >those bushings into position without a bench press?? You should use a press. However I did it with some fender washers, some regular washers, a nut and a bolt. It was a lot of messing around. I would find somebody with a press, if you can. > In rec.autos.makers.vw.watercooled, Steph wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > I would find somebody with a press, if you can. Thanks for the hint... I also tried with bolt and washers but it's hard to drive them straight... I'll be headin' for that press then. Have a good day, Steph >> In rec.autos.makers.vw.watercooled, Steph wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Steph Try a bit of Washing Up Liquid. What we Call "Fairy Liquid" in the UK. Baz > >> In rec.autos.makers.vw.watercooled, Steph wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Baz Washing Up Liquid??? Is this something like WD40? Which is kind of a penetrating oil??? >> >> In rec.autos.makers.vw.watercooled, Steph wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Washing Up Liquid??? Is this something like WD40? Which is kind of a > penetrating oil??? Don't Use OIL!! Bushes will perish. Here in the UK, after we have finished eating (we use knives, forks and plates, round things we put our food on) we wash them in a thing called a sink which is filled with hot water and we add "Washing Up Liquid". This is a liquid detergent (soap) which releases the dirt form the dirty things. Washing Up Liquid is Very Slippy. Baz >>> >> In rec.autos.makers.vw.watercooled, Steph wrote: >>> [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > Baz Dishwashing detergent its called here. Its always liquid, so that's not mentioned in the descriptor. There's the type for dishwashers (machine). Called automatic dishwashing detergent. Can be powder or liquid. "Washing up" is normally a term used for cleaning one's hands before eating. There is a specialty liquid antibacterial soap made for that purpose. If I had to guess what you were saying "washing up liquid", it would be that. The rididule was unfounded on your part. Dave >>>> >> In rec.autos.makers.vw.watercooled, Steph wrote: >>>> [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > The rididule was unfounded on your part. > Dave FYI. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairy_(detergent) http://www.uk.pg.com/products/products/fairyLiquid.html "DESCRIPTION For more than 45 years, Fairy has been part of the British repertoire and is a trusted brand recognised for its mildness to hands and its long lasting formula" Baz >>>>> >> In rec.autos.makers.vw.watercooled, Steph wrote: >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] > > Baz Odd, I don't feel corrected on any of the points I've made. Even though I feel that's what you intended. But, I don't feel that's odd based on your responses. Dave >>>> >> In rec.autos.makers.vw.watercooled, Steph wrote: >>>> [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] >The rididule was unfounded on your part. >Dave We bit sensitive. You really need more international friends. I have acquaintances from England, Ireland, Australia, Germany, Singapore and the Netherlands. When I am composing notes that I think might hit an international crowd I might make an attempt to make my comments less regional. Heck in the Southeast US uses words an expressions I did not hear growing up in the Midwest.I find delight in the way the English language can be used in other English speaking countries and by friends who have English as a second or third language. Between dialects and speed of speaking, listening to my international friends can be tiresome the first day. Not so bad after 3 or 4 days. Besides that when Baz said washing up liquid, the image came to mind of Palmolive Softens your hands while you do the dishes, or Dial. Either one has some slip to it. >>>>> >> In rec.autos.makers.vw.watercooled, Steph wrote: >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 69 lines] > of Palmolive Softens your hands while you do the dishes, or Dial. > Either one has some slip to it. Tit for tat, my friend. Baz owes that to the person he replied to as well. What goes around, comes around. Dave In rec.autos.makers.vw.watercooled, Dave wrote: >Dishwashing detergent its called here. Its always liquid, so that's not >mentioned in the descriptor. http://www.pg.com/company/who_we_are/ivory_history.jhtml says "Ivory Liquid". http://www.pg.com/product_card/brand_overview.jhtml?document=%2Fproduct_cards%2F prod_card_main_joy.xml&brand_name=Joy just says "Joy" in the name. http://www.pg.com/product_card/brand_overview.jhtml?document=%2Fproduct_cards%2F prod_card_main_dawn.xml&brand_name=Dawn says "Dawn". Those can indeed be used to lubricate things without oil. Still, after putting the bearing in you are going to grease it anyway, so oil or grease is not going to hurt. >There's the type for dishwashers (machine). Called automatic dishwashing >detergent. Can be powder or liquid. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >The rididule was unfounded on your part. Sensitive? >> >> In rec.autos.makers.vw.watercooled, Steph wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >Washing Up Liquid??? Is this something like WD40? Which is kind of a >penetrating oil??? WD40 is primarily stodard solvent and a bit of oil. Well so I have been told. The msds is somewhat vague on that point or I don't know my chemicals. It is not really a penetrating oil like Silikroil or PB Penetrating Catalyst. OK, that is personal opinion now but those who suffer working on rusty bolt cars swear positively for Silikroil and PB. Not so positive about WD40. That was funny that you did not guess washing up liquid when talking about rubber bushings. I once tried to do some bushings on a VW and gave up. It was bad enough doing motor mounts on the classic Rabbits. I had the same problem when fitting urethane bushses on my scirocco rear axel. I couldn't imaging how it ever was going to fit with those big flanges in such a small hole. I used a lot of white grease and kept on turning. They deformed a lot and then suddenly popped into place. Don't worry about the bush not going in straight. If the bushes have a metal in and outer ring then use a press. Maybe heat up the axle a bit.... SFC >> In rec.autos.makers.vw.watercooled, Steph wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Steph > I had the same problem when fitting urethane bushses on my scirocco rear > axel. I couldn't imaging how it ever was going to fit with those big flanges [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > > Steph Thanks for the precisions Dave... I understand there seems to be a confusion around different occupations here... Normally I let my wife do the dishes while I'm taking care of the other things... As for the side activity, your ancestors already came home to explain us these sort of things, of which we apprehended almost every details but the spoken expression - that I clearly make the effort to learn nowadays even if it does not have the sweetness of the Latin words... ... To resume on the bushings, I finally got them in using a small hydraulic jack hold with a chain . It worked well even if probably not as well as a real press. Steph Yes liquid soap is good. I have used some very light/bendable metal to make a cylindrical tool/compressor that compresses the bushings allowing you to at least start the bushing into its new home. Think of a ring compressor. ;-) I used worm-screw clamps to reduce the diameter of the metal and I think I used my 20 ton press, but a C-Clamp type of ball joint tool should work or a long bolt with washers and a nut to pull the bushing through. > To resume on the bushings, I finally got them in using a small > hydraulic jack hold with a chain . It worked well even if probably not > as well as a real press. > > Steph |
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