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VW Golf III with loss of power especially at low RPM

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Klaus Kragelund - 22 Oct 2007 10:55 GMT
Hi

I have a VW Golf III 1.8 from 1995. My problem is that it suddenly
looses power with a very fast jerk and immedeately thereafter resumes
power.

The problem is worst at low RPM (2000) and it can be solved by giving
full pedal. The mechanic has replaced spark plugs, cables, rotor,
ignition coil - but the only thing that seems to help is a wonder
spray into the carburator

My feeling however is that since the problem is RPM dependant, then it
can't be the ignitions system - and also since the problem will go
away for a while using a spray into the carburator, then the problem
must be with the carburator.

Do any of you guys have a clue what this is. I have in mind the
potentiometers that could be weared out - feeding back a wrong
position of a valve.

Thanks

Klaus Kragelund
dave AKA vwdoc1 - 22 Oct 2007 12:00 GMT
Hmmm 1995 Golf with a 1.8 engine with a carb.  Not from the USA AFAIK so my
responses may not apply.

Does it have a CranK position Sensor?
Do the instruments lose power like the ign switch was turned off?  Maybe ign
switch?
Maybe fuel pump relay if so equipped?

good luck!
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dave
(One out of many daves)

> Hi
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> Klaus Kragelund
Jim Behning - 22 Oct 2007 13:09 GMT
>Hmmm 1995 Golf with a 1.8 engine with a carb.  Not from the USA AFAIK so my
>responses may not apply.
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>> Klaus Kragelund

You do not state what gear you are in when this happens. Is it
possible that the engine is twisting in the engine bay causing an
electrical connector to fail? Loose electrical connections can be hard
to trace. Some of the carb sprays can goof up potentiometers.
Klaus Kragelund - 22 Oct 2007 20:52 GMT
On 22 Okt., 14:09, Jim Behning
<jimbehn...@doesthisblockpork.mindspring.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 06:00:52 -0500, "dave AKA vwdoc1"
>
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> - Vis tekst i anf?rselstegn -

It happens in all gears. My guess is the spray fixes the
potentiometers for a while....

Thanks

Klaus
SFC - 22 Oct 2007 14:19 GMT
I think he mistakes a monojet injection with a carb. They look very similair
on the outside......

SFC

> Hmmm 1995 Golf with a 1.8 engine with a carb.  Not from the USA AFAIK so
> my responses may not apply.
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>> Klaus Kragelund
Klaus Kragelund - 22 Oct 2007 20:47 GMT
> I think he mistakes a monojet injection with a carb. They look very similair
> on the outside......
>
> SFC

I'm sorry. Yes - I believe it is not a carburator, but just a trottle
to mix gas and air - a monojet.

Regards

Klaus
Klaus Kragelund - 22 Oct 2007 20:51 GMT
> Hmmm 1995 Golf with a 1.8 engine with a carb.  Not from the USA AFAIK so my
> responses may not apply.
>
> Does it have a CranK position Sensor?

No idea - I am a electrical engineer and am sorry to say not aware of
all the details.

> Do the instruments lose power like the ign switch was turned off?  Maybe ign
> switch?

All instruments functions as normal. I can however hear a relay
tripping, but not nessesarily the same time as the problem. Is
probably another problem. Knock on wood.

> Maybe fuel pump relay if so equipped?

Will advice the mechanic

Regards

Klaus
Mark Randol - 22 Oct 2007 14:23 GMT
> I have a VW Golf III 1.8 from 1995. My problem is that it suddenly
> looses power with a very fast jerk and immedeately thereafter resumes
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> ignition coil - but the only thing that seems to help is a wonder
> spray into the carburator

ALL GUESSES, but since it sounds like that may be what your mechanic is
doing too, seems fair.  But they could have been reasonable guesses if
those maintenance items were late, so I won't bust on him too hard.

From the 'spray into the carb' comment, sounds like it's also there at
idle?

Could be a vacuum leak or a weak/plugged idle circuit in the carb giving
a lean idle.  Once the mains start to come on you feel the surging.

Don't know if there's a mechanical advance on the distributor.  Could be
that's sticking up to a certain RPM then they break loose.

If there's a computer, hook it up, read the codes and watch the
indicators.  If there's not, put on a timing light and watch the timing
as you go through the symptoms.  Tail pipe sniffer might be enlightening
too.

You didn't mention what the old spark plugs looked like.  'Reading the
plugs' is often a helpful clue to what's going on.

If it were me, I'd
- check the hoses for bad spots or not being hooked up
- make sure the air filter is clean
- make sure the choke and carb heat are working properly

Mark
'95 Jetta GLS (USA 2.0l FI gas)
Klaus Kragelund - 22 Oct 2007 20:57 GMT
> In article <1193046958.797198.20...@e34g2000pro.googlegroups.com>,
> klausk...@hotmail.com says...
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> From the 'spray into the carb' comment, sounds like it's also there at
> idle?

It is also there at idle. When it happens it is a very sudden loss of
power - like the ignition is removed

> Could be a vacuum leak or a weak/plugged idle circuit in the carb giving
> a lean idle.  Once the mains start to come on you feel the surging.
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> You didn't mention what the old spark plugs looked like.  'Reading the
> plugs' is often a helpful clue to what's going on.

The old plugs were black, and as you say it is therefore not fair to
blame the mechanic all the way.

> If it were me, I'd
> - check the hoses for bad spots or not being hooked up
> - make sure the air filter is clean

New air filter also

> - make sure the choke and carb heat are working properly

Thanks, will pass the comments to the mechanic.

Klaus
 
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