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Car Forum / Volkswagen / Water Cooled Volkswagen Cars / May 2008

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How Does A Car Run on Water?

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tbmcars@gmail.com - 11 May 2008 12:13 GMT
…With this water fuel technology, I have personally saved more than
50% in fuel costs savings ever since I started using this system…
http://tbmcars.googlepages.com/car_running_on_water_is_water_4_gas_scam
pfjw@aol.com - 12 May 2008 11:45 GMT
On May 11, 7:13 am, tbmc...@gmail.com wrote:
> …With this water fuel technology, I have personally saved more than
> 50% in fuel costs savings ever since I started using this system…

Well... it is certainly possible - but it is more indicative of your
maintenance habits than the validity of the technology. What is really
happening, of course, is that your car is running as it would were it
properly maintained in the first place, probably for the first time in
years. But, unless your habits change substantially, it won't last.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
dave AKA vwdoc1 - 12 May 2008 22:59 GMT
I answered one of these people claiming that they had a hydrogen generator
on their car and they just "loved" it.  They were also selling the kits and
were local to Chicago.
I said that I wanted to buy a kit BUT I wanted to see how their car was
running.
Regrettably his car got stolen before I could check it out.  STRANGE timing
huh?  ;-)
Also they have not gotten another car or have not contacted me to check it
out.  hmmmm
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later,
dave
(One out of many daves)

On May 11, 7:13 am, tbmc...@gmail.com wrote:
> …With this water fuel technology, I have personally saved more than
> 50% in fuel costs savings ever since I started using this system…

Well... it is certainly possible - but it is more indicative of your
maintenance habits than the validity of the technology. What is really
happening, of course, is that your car is running as it would were it
properly maintained in the first place, probably for the first time in
years. But, unless your habits change substantially, it won't last.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
Joseph Meehan - 13 May 2008 12:36 GMT
The current SCAM is based on the idea of using the car's electricity to
separate the water into H² and O² then burning that along with the gasoline.
Assuming 100% efficiency all around, it would be a net zero as it would take
as much energy to separate it as it would release when burned.  Of course
nothing it 100% efficient so it would result in reduced mileage.

> On May 11, 7:13 am, tbmc...@gmail.com wrote:
>> …With this water fuel technology, I have personally saved more than
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> Peter Wieck
> Melrose Park, PA

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Joseph Meehan

Dia 's Muire duit

Ears - 13 May 2008 01:45 GMT
SCAM!!!
pfjw@aol.com - 13 May 2008 02:32 GMT
> SCAM!!!

Of course it is. However, the water-injector system has some merit for
keeping valve-trains clean, fuel/air density high and the heads cool -
in moderation of course.

And so a poorly maintained engine - not atypical of someone who might
be taken by such a scam - would benefit disproportionately and so lead
to the most emphatic endorsements.

Dave:

Hydrogen Generator - one assumes via electrolysis? I would like to see
a system capable of producing 208,000 BTUs worth of hydrogen per hour
- that comes to about four pounds of hydrogen, which would require
electrolizing 2.5 gallons (20 pounds)  of water +/- for round figures
- assuming 20+mpg or equivalent. Present electrolysis systems
operating at less than 500C are about 41% efficient. Assuming no other
loses, the system would have to produce 126,000 BTU of electricity to
get 52,000 (one pound) of Hydrogen.

Scam. Perpetual motion.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA

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