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Car Forum / Volkswagen / Water Cooled Volkswagen Cars / July 2008

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what's that noise?

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Reid Fleming - 28 Jul 2008 04:58 GMT
I've got a '84 VW turbo diesel rabbit that emits a strange noise
at around 90kph.  The noise is coming from the right side of the
car.  It is most evident at around 90 in either 4th or 5th gear.

Rather than clumsily try to describe this noise, I've put up a
sound file here:

   http://www3.telus.net/snowpeach/carsounds/noise.wav

I would really appreciate it if somebody could give that a listen
and tell me what that noise is.

Thanks!
Reid
pfjw@aol.com - 28 Jul 2008 13:25 GMT
> I've got a '84 VW turbo diesel rabbit that emits a strange noise
> at around 90kph.  The noise is coming from the right side of the
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> Thanks!
> Reid

No vibration? None at all?

That is a very low frequency - maybe a heat-shield from the exhaust
system, or it hitting the frame of the car somewhere? Or a soft motor-
mount causing more-or-less the same thing at a certain RPM?

If there is vibration, the answer _will_ change.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
Reid Fleming - 28 Jul 2008 18:06 GMT
> No vibration? None at all?
>
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> If there is vibration, the answer _will_ change.

No vibration more than usual.  It's very possible that one or more of
the motor mounts is bad.  There's a distinct THUNK when starting from
a standing start, which I've been told is a sign of a bad motor mount.
The front shocks are shot.

If there was vibration, what could the answer be?

Is there an online repository of vw rabbit noises?

Thanks,
Reid
pfjw@aol.com - 28 Jul 2008 18:32 GMT
> > No vibration? None at all?
>
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> Thanks,
> Reid

Mpfffff.... So, bad strut/shock mounts, bad motor mount - that has it
covered all-in-one. Start with the mount, then do the shocks - very
preferably at the same time. Try stopping hard with bad shocks - you
might find yourself three lanes over by the time the front-end stops
bouncing. This is life-safety stuff. Until then, no kids, no SOs, no
one but yourself in that vehicle - and only then at low speeds on
local roads with nobody around you.

As to what the answer could be if vibrations: Bad wheel-bearings or CV
joints, bad ball-joints, tie-rod ends - AKA drive shaft or suspension
parts. Also potentially life-safety stuff.

At 24 years old this car has 'needs' - fail to meet them at your peril
and at the peril of those around you.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
Reid Fleming - 28 Jul 2008 19:06 GMT
> Mpfffff.... So, bad strut/shock mounts, bad motor mount - that has it
> covered all-in-one. Start with the mount, then do the shocks - very
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> one but yourself in that vehicle - and only then at low speeds on
> local roads with nobody around you.

Gah, I wish I'd known this sooner.  Just returned from a long road trip
where I was driving at 100KPH+ for days on end.  Just me in the car
though, fortunately.

OK, will get on this pronto.  How difficult is it to replace the motor
mount(s) ?

> As to what the answer could be if vibrations: Bad wheel-bearings or CV
> joints, bad ball-joints, tie-rod ends - AKA drive shaft or suspension
> parts. Also potentially life-safety stuff.
>
> At 24 years old this car has 'needs' - fail to meet them at your peril
> and at the peril of those around you.

I hear ya.  Thanks muchly for the info!

Reid
 
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