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Car Forum / Volkswagen / Water Cooled Volkswagen Cars / October 2008Hengst or Mann oil filter?
Both Hengst and Mann look like good filters. But some online sites seem to sell Hengst (~$5) at about 1/2 of Mann (~$10). Which filter do you guys prefer/recommend? I guess VW buys batches from both at different times? I have never seen Hengst from my vendors. I always get Mann or Mahle. I buy oil filters in the 6 or 10 pack. Whatever the quantitly of bulk is. I buy stuff for my TDI at TDI related sites. Or for the gasser I use www.parts4vw.com or www.germanautoparts.com A lot of the online places are not really VW oriented parts places. The TDI sites or the two I listed seem to actually own and repair VWs. Many of the other places are no more VW oriented than NAPA or Advanced or Pep Boys. >Both Hengst and Mann look like good filters. But some online sites >seem to sell Hengst (~$5) at about 1/2 of Mann (~$10). > >Which filter do you guys prefer/recommend? > >I guess VW buys batches from both at different times? I used to be able to get Hengst oil filters for the '97 VR6 engines like what the dealer sold. I used to get Mahle Rabbit gas oil filters in the past too along with OEM oil filters Now I seem to get all Mann filters both air and oil. All of the above should be excellent!  Signaturelater, (One out of many daves) BTW stay away from cheap oil filters! lol >I have never seen Hengst from my vendors. I always get Mann or Mahle. > I buy oil filters in the 6 or 10 pack. Whatever the quantitly of bulk [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> >>I guess VW buys batches from both at different times? Yeah, I've read both Mann and Hengst being OEM. Just that Hengst comes in 1/2 the price of Mann!! Thanks. On Oct 14, 4:27 am, "dave AKA vwdoc1" <vwdoc1nos...@pleasehotmail.com> wrote: > I used to be able to get Hengst oil filters for the '97 VR6 engines like > what the dealer sold. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > >>I guess VW buys batches from both at different times? Well then I am very lucky when I buy Mann filters. ;-) Yeah, I've read both Mann and Hengst being OEM. Just that Hengst comes in 1/2 the price of Mann!! Thanks. On Oct 14, 4:27 am, "dave AKA vwdoc1" <vwdoc1nos...@pleasehotmail.com> wrote: > I used to be able to get Hengst oil filters for the '97 VR6 engines like > what the dealer sold. [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > >>I guess VW buys batches from both at different times? Hengst makes OEM oil filtration systems for Mercedes A-class and Audi S4 V8 5V. So maybe the Hengst only shows up in newer VWs (incl. 3.6L VR6). http://www.hengst.de/conpresso/_rubric/index.php?rubric=Automotive_OE__Filter_Sy stems__Oil_EN On Oct 13, 5:30 am, Jim Behning <jimbehn...@doesthisblockpork.mindspring.com> wrote: > I have never seen Hengst from my vendors. I always get Mann or Mahle. > I buy oil filters in the 6 or 10 pack. Whatever the quantitly of bulk [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > two I listed seem to actually own and repair VWs. Many of the other > places are no more VW oriented than NAPA or Advanced or Pep Boys. I see. I know that VW tries to have at least 2 sources for many things. I gather there are two vendors for the sunroof mechanism in my car. I just never heard of Hengst but I live in a small world. >Hengst makes OEM oil filtration systems for Mercedes A-class and Audi >S4 V8 5V. So maybe the Hengst only shows up in newer VWs (incl. 3.6L [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> two I listed seem to actually own and repair VWs. Many of the other >> places are no more VW oriented than NAPA or Advanced or Pep Boys. > Both Hengst and Mann look like good filters. But some online sites > seem to sell Hengst (~$5) at about 1/2 of Mann (~$10). > > Which filter do you guys prefer/recommend? > > I guess VW buys batches from both at different times? Never heard of Hengst, I've always went with Mahle or Mann. But I'm an old school VW nut. TBerk http://www.hengst.de/conpresso/_rubric/index.php?rubric=Automotive_Aftermarket__ Products__Oil_Filters_EN >> Both Hengst and Mann look like good filters. But some online sites >> seem to sell Hengst (~$5) at about 1/2 of Mann (~$10). [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > TBerk > http://www.hengst.de/conpresso/_rubric/index.php?rubric=Automotive_Aftermarket__ Products__Oil_Filters_EN Huh. Well based on the description they _sound_ OK. Anti drain back feature to keep oil in the filter when the motor is off, bypass valve to keep oil flowing even if run it till it clogs up. just don't buy FRAM. TBerk >> http://www.hengst.de/conpresso/_rubric/index.php?rubric=Automotive_Aftermarket__ Products__Oil_Filters_EN > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >TBerk My Toyota with 270,000 miles and no visible wear in the cylinders asks "Why not use Fram?" Yes I know the answer. Toyota is such a superior vehicle that uses only the finest cast iron for its blocks that it can survive 20 years of crappy oil filters and Mobil 1 and still show little signs of wear. Yes I use Mann and Mahle on my 2003 TDI with only 202,000 miles. I expect if I do not change work around that that car will see 500,000 before I tire of it. snip > My Toyota with 270,000 miles and no visible wear in the cylinders asks > "Why not use Fram?" Yes I know the answer. Toyota is such a superior > vehicle that uses only the finest cast iron for its blocks that it can > survive 20 years of crappy oil filters and Mobil 1 and still show > little signs of wear. Because you are a wise owner and change your oil regularly and THAT is why your Toy is doing so well! ;-) Info for others to read: http://www.knizefamily.net/minimopar/oilfilters/reference.html Also google "fram filter explode" I have not had a fram explode on me, but I stopped using fram oil filters about 20+ years ago. > Yes I use Mann and Mahle on my 2003 TDI with only 202,000 miles. I > expect if I do not change work around that that car will see 500,000 > before I tire of it. lol..............What no FRAM for the TDI! <g> Signaturelater, (One out of many daves) I have gone either 15,000 miles or 25,000 miles on an oil change with that truck. Now I just need to remember when the last year was I changed it as I do not drive it often. I did have a white oil filter pop a pinhole leak in one of the Rabbits. Then I started using Frams for the Rabbits. I never had a problem with oil draining out of those filters. Now the Toyota filters are mounted horizontally. I can wait a half hour and that filter is empty. That is a bonus. No sludge in my engines when I remove valve covers. I suspect using Mobil synthetic oils for the last 20+ years is why. You know the Toyota engine as well as the VW use pretty good cast iron. I am not so sure of GM, Ford or Chrysler. I have a customer tell me they traded in their GM little wagon. Maybe a Cavalier size wagon. He had 300,000 miles on that with just a few starter/alternators changes. I suspect many cars this side of Yugos can last a long time. Especially when you live in a warm, not in the salt area of the world. >snip > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > >lol..............What no FRAM for the TDI! <g> Well in your case, and mine since I don't change the oil often in my '83 Audi 4000s nor my '88 Cherokee, we can afford a better oil filter! ;-) Gee that reminds me to change the oils in these vehicles, it is the end of an even year! lol I had one 2nd gen Jetta 1.8l that created so much oil pressure that it shut the engine down. Oil filter held but I don't remember the brand. :-( Was that a white Purolator filter that sprung a leak? I think I had 1 Mann filter that started leaking on a 1.8t engine. I am glad I caught it before it leaked out much. BTW How often do you change the filter in the TDI? >I have gone either 15,000 miles or 25,000 miles on an oil change with > that truck. Now I just need to remember when the last year was I [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] >> >>lol..............What no FRAM for the TDI! <g> TDI get new oil and filter every 10,000 miles as per book. Oil analysis shows oil is fine at that interval and could go longer. I guess I could use a different filter on the Toyota but my anecdotal has shown no reason to worry. Especially since that vehicle is in retirement with only a few thousand miles a year. Right now it seems to have a bad tank of gas. I will drive in more to burn up that tank so I can drain, inspect and fill with fresh fuel from one of my regular refuel suppliers. I do have an oil change for the Toyota as I forgot when I changed it last. I just changed the oil in the John Deere. I thought I had a new filter for the JD but I did not. Given that I don't use that but 30 hours or less a year I doubt there is much dirt trapped in it. I did drain the oil out of the filter though. I will install a fresh filter next time I go by the JD store. I think it may have been a Puralotor. >Well in your case, and mine since I don't change the oil often in my '83 >Audi 4000s nor my '88 Cherokee, we can afford a better oil filter! ;-) [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] >>> >>>lol..............What no FRAM for the TDI! <g> |
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