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Car Forum / Volkswagen / Water Cooled Volkswagen Cars / November 2008

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Heated front seats in a '99 Passat

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wjcimbri - 18 Nov 2008 02:57 GMT
Hi Group, I have a problem with my '99 Passat. The heater in the drivers
seat is not working. The passenger seat works, the fuse is good. Help, the
winter is here and leather without heated seats, sucks! Thanks!
dave AKA vwdoc1 - 18 Nov 2008 04:24 GMT
Maybe just the switch or wiring........................
OR
Possibly the heating elements inside of that seat!  :-(

> Hi Group, I have a problem with my '99 Passat. The heater in the drivers
> seat is not working. The passenger seat works, the fuse is good. Help, the
> winter is here and leather without heated seats, sucks! Thanks!
pfjw@aol.com - 18 Nov 2008 15:44 GMT
On Nov 17, 11:24 pm, "dave AKA vwdoc1"
<vwdoc1nos...@pleasehotmail.com> wrote:
> Maybe just the switch or wiring........................
> OR
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Yeah... typically, hopefully just the switch.

But, also mind the MPC (Molex) connector under the seat. Sometimes
they pull loose.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
wjcimbri - 20 Nov 2008 03:16 GMT
Hi, thanks for the information. It is not the switch, and I do not see any
loose connections on any of the connectors. It may be the heaters
themselves. Need to do a little more troubleshooting. I will keep you
posted.
Thanks

On Nov 17, 11:24 pm, "dave AKA vwdoc1"
<vwdoc1nos...@pleasehotmail.com> wrote:
> Maybe just the switch or wiring........................
> OR
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

Yeah... typically, hopefully just the switch.

But, also mind the MPC (Molex) connector under the seat. Sometimes
they pull loose.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
pfjw@aol.com - 20 Nov 2008 12:08 GMT
> Hi, thanks for the information. It is not the switch, and I do not see any
> loose connections on any of the connectors. It may be the heaters
> themselves. Need to do a little more troubleshooting. I will keep you
> posted.

I do not mean just that the connectors separate -  individual wires
sometimes pull loose from the connectors, or the crimp-connectors are
so tightly crimped that they sever the copper down to a few strands,
which then burn out with the load. See if you have power *TO* that
molex connector, then check for load (resistance) to the actual
elements. Betcha that if you have power to the connector you have a
failed wire *at* the connector(s), not an actual failed element.

Part of this is trying "in back" of the actual connector at the crimp.
A good VOM with sharp probes is your best friend in this sort of
search.

VW electrics sub-assemblies are notoriously sloppy, so all of this may
come to the same thing in terms of what you have to replace, sadly.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
wjcimbri - 22 Nov 2008 01:54 GMT
Thanks for the info. I am going to dive into it this weekend. I will let you
know how I make out.

On Nov 19, 10:16 pm, "wjcimbri" <wjcim...@optonline.net> wrote:
> Hi, thanks for the information. It is not the switch, and I do not see any
> loose connections on any of the connectors. It may be the heaters
> themselves. Need to do a little more troubleshooting. I will keep you
> posted.

I do not mean just that the connectors separate -  individual wires
sometimes pull loose from the connectors, or the crimp-connectors are
so tightly crimped that they sever the copper down to a few strands,
which then burn out with the load. See if you have power *TO* that
molex connector, then check for load (resistance) to the actual
elements. Betcha that if you have power to the connector you have a
failed wire *at* the connector(s), not an actual failed element.

Part of this is trying "in back" of the actual connector at the crimp.
A good VOM with sharp probes is your best friend in this sort of
search.

VW electrics sub-assemblies are notoriously sloppy, so all of this may
come to the same thing in terms of what you have to replace, sadly.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
 
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