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1995 Jetta Temperature Gauge rises then drops suddently back to     normal.

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tombstone - 13 Jan 2009 20:25 GMT
Good Afternoon!

My daughter just called me on the way from from college and said she
was having a problem with her car.  She said that as she is driving
the temperature will sudden rise to just below the max, then just as
quickly return to the normal position.

Does anybody have any ideas as to what the problem could be?

It's a 1995 Jetta III with auto transmission.

Thanks in advance for any and all help.

Jeff
pfjw@aol.com - 13 Jan 2009 20:28 GMT
> Good Afternoon!
>
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>
> Jeff

Sticky thermostat. Especially in the winter. Replace it.

But, just in case, check the fan action - but what you describe is not
typically a fan problem.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
tombstone - 13 Jan 2009 20:30 GMT
I've never replace a thermostat on this car - her boyfriend always did
it.

How much of a pain would something like that be?
pfjw@aol.com - 13 Jan 2009 22:06 GMT
> I've never replace a thermostat on this car - her boyfriend always did
> it.
>
> How much of a pain would something like that be?

Depends. When has the antifreeze last been changed? If it is more than
three years, not much of a pain at all as you are dumping the system
anyway. The stat itself is a few bucks.

Do a flush to get any sludge out of the system, use VW - approved anti-
freeze, and take your time.

There are sources on the net for How-To tutorials - for example, here
is one for an '03 Jetta:

http://answers.edmunds.com/question-do-picture-vw-jetta-2003-2-0-engine-thermost
at-engine-23412.aspx


http://www.partsgeek.com/catalog/1995/volkswagen/jetta/cooling_system/thermostat.html

http://www.partsgeek.com/catalog/1995/volkswagen/jetta/cooling_system/thermostat
_housing.html


I linked you to the housing in case it gets bunged in the process -
they are brittle if abused.

You could also pay your local mechanic or draft the boyfriend to do it
if you are uncomfortable with it. It is maybe 2 hours' work with the
draining, purging and filling. When you refill, remember not to forget
to "BURP" the system or you will have no heat - much has been written
here on VW engines needing burping for proper refilling.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
Mark - 16 Jan 2009 13:29 GMT
> You could also pay your local mechanic or draft the boyfriend to do it
> if you are uncomfortable with it. It is maybe 2 hours' work with the
> draining, purging and filling. When you refill, remember not to forget
> to "BURP" the system or you will have no heat - much has been written
> here on VW engines needing burping for proper refilling.

I could NEVER get even most of the air out with squeezing hoses, etc,
etc.  I just ran it 5-10 minutes, shut it off and let it cool, filled
the ball to MAX, drove around (like to work), stopped, let cool, topped
off, etc.  Would take 3-5 heat cycles to get it stable.

Mark
Nate Nagel - 13 Jan 2009 22:47 GMT
>> Good Afternoon!
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> Peter Wieck
> Melrose Park, PA

eh, if it's got a two speed fan, it might be a failing low speed on the
fan thermoswitch.  Sticky thermostat, equally likely.  I'd probably
replace both and be done with it.

nate

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dave AKA vwdoc1 - 14 Jan 2009 01:18 GMT
I guess it depends on what "sudden rise" actually means.
A short in the wiring or a defective coolant temperature sensor could cause
fluctuations with the gauge.

BTW Is this a 4 cylinder gas engine?

A new thermostat is probably a good idea but make sure that a good brand is
installed!
I just talked to someone that installed a new thermostat ( I don't know the
brand he used) and it lasted about a month before it did not function
correctly.  It was stuck in the closed position and the heater core had to
do the work of cooling the coolant.  Well the car was driven too fast and
the heater core blew causing an accident with his 1997 Jetta 2.0.  Car is
totalled but he is fine.

JMHO
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later,
(One out of many daves)

On Jan 13, 3:25 pm, tombstone <idp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Good Afternoon!
>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Jeff

Sticky thermostat. Especially in the winter. Replace it.

But, just in case, check the fan action - but what you describe is not
typically a fan problem.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
Mark - 14 Jan 2009 14:14 GMT
In article <2a1bfc63-2db2-4493-b419-0b0b27a9ec96
@w1g2000prm.googlegroups.com>, idpweb@gmail.com says...
> It's a 1995 Jetta III with auto transmission.

Agreed with the group.  Sticky thermostat.

I'll assume the 2.0l engine.

I forget (sold the '95), is the thermostat up in the head under that
plastic goose neck?  If so, replace that too.  ~Cheap.  They crack at
the mounting holes and cause a leak, then you gotta dump the coolant
again.  If it's where I remember (see above) you're gonna be moving it
around, retorquing, etc, so I'd think if it were gonna crack, it'd be a
month after doin' the thermostat.

If the hoses are the least bit suspect, I'd do those too.  Not so cheap,
and that oil cooler plumbing (just above the oil filter mount) is a PITA
to deal with.  Look at the mass of hose in the area and you'll get the
idea.  Did mine with the front bumper off (rad fan and fan belt R&R -
yep, it's got a fan belt) and it was still a PITA.  

If you do the hoses, get that orange plastic dip stick tube too.  You'll
prolly break it yanking around (or trying to take it off so you don't),
and it's cheap just to have in case.

Good luck!

Mark
'95 Jetta GLS (sold)
'08 Jetta SEL
Rich - 31 Jan 2009 04:06 GMT
> Good Afternoon!
>
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>
> Jeff

If the wire connecting to the coolant temperature sensor gets grounded
believe this would cause the temperature gauge to go to maximum.  There
could be a momentary ground short in that wire circuit.  rich
 
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