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Car Forum / Volkswagen / Water Cooled Volkswagen Cars / July 2009

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Squeaking Noise

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zar - 13 Jul 2009 13:36 GMT
Hello to all
VW Golf III  1992  1.4 ltr   158,000  km
Had the mechanic change the generator and timing belts.
When I picked up the car all was well.
Next day there was this loud squeaking noise coming from the belts.(?)
The noise starts every time the car is cold.
It stops after the engine warms up (5 minutes)
Called the mechanic and he claims the tension rod (?) needs to be replaced.
Any ideas?  thank you
SFC - 13 Jul 2009 16:53 GMT
> Hello to all
> VW Golf III  1992  1.4 ltr   158,000  km
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> replaced.
> Any ideas?  thank you

He prob. set too little tension on the v-belt. Have him adjust it or do it
yourself, it's an easy job.

SFC
zar - 14 Jul 2009 02:08 GMT
>> Hello to all
>> VW Golf III  1992  1.4 ltr   158,000  km
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>
> SFC

Isn't the tension self adjustable?
Btw the car has power steering but no air condition
Can you advise how to adjust it myself?
I tried some search on the net but couldn't find a diagram.
PS the shop that installed the belts is 300 miles away.
I am a bit concerned of taking it to another mechanic.
dave AKA vwdoc1 - 14 Jul 2009 13:13 GMT
Well can you at least check the belt's tension!  ;-)
I am not familiar with your engine, but the 1992 engines here in the USA
usually require the tension to be manually adjusted.
Some component will move allowing the tension adjustment, and you will find
slotted holes usually.  Also look for long bolts that could be unlocked and
screwed in tightening the tension and loosening up other nuts/bolts.
Maybe your mechanic is referring to this long bolt???

Would also need a diagram/picture to identify what to do!  <:-)
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>>> Hello to all
>>> VW Golf III  1992  1.4 ltr   158,000  km
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> PS the shop that installed the belts is 300 miles away.
> I am a bit concerned of taking it to another mechanic.
zar - 15 Jul 2009 23:37 GMT
> Well can you at least check the belt's tension!  ;-)
> I am not familiar with your engine, but the 1992 engines here in the USA
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>
> Would also need a diagram/picture to identify what to do!  <:-)

Belt tension is fine, and this model has a spring that self adjusts the
tension.
Took the car to a local shop this afternoon. He sprayed some type of
liquid grease (?) on the belt
and the noise stopped. This mechanic claims that the problem is with the
belt,
and if the noise comes back I would need to replace the belt again.
Good news is he didn't charge me or accepted money for the work.
I will revert with more news.
Thanx guys.
dave AKA vwdoc1 - 16 Jul 2009 04:12 GMT
Belt Dressing we call it here.
Maybe that current belt has sat too long and is dry rotting!
Do you normally keep a spare belt just in case?

Keep us informed!

>> Well can you at least check the belt's tension!  ;-)
>> I am not familiar with your engine, but the 1992 engines here in the USA
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> I will revert with more news.
> Thanx guys.
zar - 16 Jul 2009 09:13 GMT
> Belt Dressing we call it here.
ok thnx, (like French, one thousand islands etc? ;=)))
> Maybe that current belt has sat too long and is dry rotting!
I saw the new belts arrive at the shop where I had them changed.
All work on the car was done in my presence.
They don't have the VW logo on them, but then again
I didn't think that belts differ that much in quality.
> Do you normally keep a spare belt just in case?
No, but yr idea is good.
Now that I saw how easy is to change the alternator belt
(all I have to do using a wrench is, push the spring toward the front,
put a pin to lock it and change the belt.
> Keep us informed!
>
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>> I will revert with more news.
>> Thanx guys.
zar - 23 Jul 2009 09:50 GMT
Had the belt replaced yesterday afternoon.
Pulled back the spring with a wrench, held it
and changed the belt with the help of a friend.
No more squeaking.
Both belts have "made in Germany" on them.
The new belt has the VW logo on it and is tighter.
It may well be the old one was longer by several millimeters.
Live and learn.....

PS cost of belt = 15.00 Euros  =  USD 21.30

>> Belt Dressing we call it here.
> ok thnx, (like French, one thousand islands etc? ;=)))
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>>> I will revert with more news.
>>> Thanx guys.
SFC - 23 Jul 2009 10:09 GMT
Sometimes the pulley's are not properly aligned which could also cause this
squealing.
Good to here you solved the problem...

SFC

> Had the belt replaced yesterday afternoon.
> Pulled back the spring with a wrench, held it
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>>>> I will revert with more news.
>>>> Thanx guys.
dave AKA vwdoc1 - 23 Jul 2009 13:25 GMT
My congrats to you in solving & repairing the problem!
I'm curious to know if the "bad" belt part # matches the new one!
Might be for a different VW.  ;-)

> Had the belt replaced yesterday afternoon.
> Pulled back the spring with a wrench, held it
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>>>> I will revert with more news.
>>>> Thanx guys.
Stupendous Man - 24 Jul 2009 18:41 GMT
>>>> Belt Dressing we call it here.

Bad stuff, works by softening rubber. Slings onto hoses, timing belt, and
engine mounts. Repeated use can get far more costly than proper repair.
I prefer to use water-based (not grease-based) valve lapping compound. Smear
a little under the belt (engine off) and run it, it takes the shine off the
pulleys so the belt can grip. Pumice based hand cleaners can help too.
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dave AKA vwdoc1 - 25 Jul 2009 04:13 GMT
good tip.........thanks!

>>>>> Belt Dressing we call it here.
>
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> off the pulleys so the belt can grip. Pumice based hand cleaners can help
> too.
zar - 25 Jul 2009 20:42 GMT
> My congrats to you in solving & repairing the problem!
> I'm curious to know if the "bad" belt part # matches the new one!
> Might be for a different VW.  ;-)

You are right !!  The "bad" belt has a different part number.
I went to a parts store and checked the catalog for the belt number.
It states 1459.  And the new belt I got (VW) has the number 1459 33  on it
I don't know what the extra  33  means  but this is the correct belt.
The bad one has the number 11190 on it.
I'll raise hell Monday morning.
Thnx for the suggestion.
dave AKA vwdoc1 - 25 Jul 2009 22:12 GMT
Get em since it cost you more time and $$!  lol

>> My congrats to you in solving & repairing the problem!
>> I'm curious to know if the "bad" belt part # matches the new one!
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> I'll raise hell Monday morning.
> Thnx for the suggestion.
 
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