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Car Forum / Volkswagen / Water Cooled Volkswagen Cars / July 2009

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Key for 99 Jetta

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Ted & Lisa Nicholson - 23 Jul 2009 11:04 GMT
My son just bought a 99 Jetta and it came with only one key.  It is one of
those switchblade keys.  What he would really like is a regular key.  He
doesn't even care about the remote.  The person he bought the car from said
that the 99s don't have the computer chip in them and we can just get a
regular blank and have it cut.  I question this, does anybody know for sure?

Thanks,

Ted

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dave AKA vwdoc1 - 23 Jul 2009 13:37 GMT
I agree with the seller, I don't think your US model(?) '99 has immobilizer,
but the 2000 Jettas did.
When the idiot lights come on as the ign is switched on, do you, or your
son, see a key symbol?
If you buy the key from the dealer, they should know but it would probably
come with a new chip in it anyway and it could be matched to the immobilizer
if needed.

Not sure if the ebay keys have chips in them.

JMHO
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(One out of many daves)

> My son just bought a 99 Jetta and it came with only one key.  It is one of
> those switchblade keys.  What he would really like is a regular key.  He
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Ted & Lisa Nicholson - 23 Jul 2009 22:48 GMT
No little key symbol reared its ugly head, so I guess the dealer was right.
That should make the whole exercise considerably cheaper for a kid who
scoops ice cream on Cape Cod. (his car, his expense)

Thanks,

Ted

> I agree with the seller, I don't think your US model(?) '99 has
> immobilizer, but the 2000 Jettas did.
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dave AKA vwdoc1 - 24 Jul 2009 00:46 GMT
There might be a few online places that can sell a key cut to work in that
Jetta!
Cheaper than the dealer, but always check the dealer price first!  ;-)

BTW I get mine from the dealer = faster and if there is a problem we can
handle it face to face!  <g>
AND I want three keys per vehicle at least!!!

JMHO
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> No little key symbol reared its ugly head, so I guess the dealer was
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Ted & Lisa Nicholson - 25 Jul 2009 01:38 GMT
Well, I called the vw dealer today, not the used car dealer that sold him
the car and was told that there was no substitute for a 99 Jetta Key besides
the switchblade key.  The price quoted was $160.00 plus programming.  The
parts guy insisted that there was a chip that needed to be programmed.

This is ironic.  It may be the only instance where my son doesn't want a
remote, but has to have one!

Ted

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dave AKA vwdoc1 - 25 Jul 2009 04:42 GMT
It would look like these on ebay.  A valet or wallet key might have been
issued with a lot of the newer VWs.  Owner's manual might have info about
the different keys!

ebay item # 160350072590 or 370232198083 or 270431557311

BUT that late '99 Jetta calls for a key with the transponder chip in it.
:-(
VW part # 3B0-837-219AK
See if the dealer can price that part # out for you.  Also see how much they
charge for cutting it too.

http://www.worldimpex.com/parts/genuine-part-cut-key-valet-key_845443.html

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> the car and was told that there was no substitute for a 99 Jetta Key
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PeterD - 25 Jul 2009 13:38 GMT
>Well, I called the vw dealer today, not the used car dealer that sold him
>the car and was told that there was no substitute for a 99 Jetta Key besides
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What, no valet key for this year?
Eric Oulashin - 29 Jul 2009 23:23 GMT
I'm not sure about a 99 Jetta, but I bought a new 2009 VW Rabbit last
year, which came with 3 keys: 2 switchblade keys with remote, and a
"valet" key that is basically a regular key (no switchblade or remote).
 So I'd think you should be able to get a regular key for the Jetta -
but I suppose it's possible that only a switchblade/remote key was
available.

Even if you could get a regular-style key, one of the issues with these
newer VW keys is that not just anyone can cut them, since they're not
cut in the style of a more standard key (they're cut on the sides rather
than the top/bottom).  I suppose that serves two purposes: To make it
harder for thieves to steal the car, and also to allow VW to make more
money by requiring you to buy new keys from them. :)

Eric

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> him the car and was told that there was no substitute for a 99 Jetta Key
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Jim Behning - 30 Jul 2009 00:23 GMT
If I were to dig around in my junk drawer I could swear I would find a
letter from VW regarding keys. You do not have to buy them from VW but
you do have to find a key dealer that has all the magic
tools/programmer. Of course this if for VWs that have immobilizer
keys.

Numerous articles out there.
http://www.my-gti.com/392/volkswagen-key-fob-immobiliser-and-transmitter

>I'm not sure about a 99 Jetta, but I bought a new 2009 VW Rabbit last
>year, which came with 3 keys: 2 switchblade keys with remote, and a
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dave AKA vwdoc1 - 30 Jul 2009 01:35 GMT
I think that VW, or our government regulations, cause owners of the cars to
take it to them for the transponder matching.
Out of the USA there are probably on 42 independents that can cut the key
and "legally" match the transponders.  Out of 50 states that is pretty
sparse!
One of them is Joel Osserman's place www.SelectEuroCars.com in NY.
He is a little too far for me to drive to have one done though, so I always
send people to their local dealer.
My dealer told me that their laser key cutting machine cost them $13K and I
guess they pay to hook your car up to some master computer in Germany.
Everyone has to get their "cut"!  hahaha
PLEASE DON'T LOSE YOUR KEYS!!!

If you had the special immobilizer codes for your vehicle then you could
probably do your own matching with a vag-com tool.
I think there might be some tools out there that can even get those
immobilizer codes, but I am not sure if they are legal or inexpensive.

> If I were to dig around in my junk drawer I could swear I would find a
> letter from VW regarding keys. You do not have to buy them from VW but
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