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Bert Hyman - 28 Oct 2009 15:42 GMT
Or more formally, "Voluntary Emissions Service Action 28F3/P1."

No specifics about what models or engines are covered, just "some
Volkswagen vehicles."

Someone asked earlier about reimbursement to people who had already
suffered coil failure and paid for replacement; there's a "Customer
Campaign Reimbursement Claim Form" included, although they don't make
any mention of it in the cover letter.

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LG - 28 Oct 2009 15:54 GMT
So far it seems only the 1.8T coils have had the letter sent.
Check the coil and if it is not one of a certain group of OK coils, replace
it

> Or more formally, "Voluntary Emissions Service Action 28F3/P1."
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Campaign Reimbursement Claim Form" included, although they don't make
> any mention of it in the cover letter.
Bert Hyman - 28 Oct 2009 16:03 GMT
> So far it seems only the 1.8T coils have had the letter sent.
> Check the coil and if it is not one of a certain group of OK coils,
> replace it

Hidden away on the reimbursement form is reference to
http://www.vwcoils.com.

If you click "Is My Vehicle Affected" on the left menu, you'll be able
to enter the year, model and engine of your car (which will show up only
if it's actually affected) and you'll see a range of dates over which
you should expect to get the letter.

For my '02 Passat 1.8T, the range is from Oct. 2009 to Sep. 2010, so
they're giving themselves a lot of elbow room.

>> Or more formally, "Voluntary Emissions Service Action 28F3/P1."
>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>> Campaign Reimbursement Claim Form" included, although they don't make
>> any mention of it in the cover letter.

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Bert Hyman    St. Paul, MN    bert@iphouse.com

Nate Nagel - 29 Oct 2009 03:03 GMT
Wow, so this isn't a flashback to 2002!

nate

>> So far it seems only the 1.8T coils have had the letter sent.
>> Check the coil and if it is not one of a certain group of OK coils,
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>>> Campaign Reimbursement Claim Form" included, although they don't make
>>> any mention of it in the cover letter.

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Eric O. - 28 Oct 2009 23:32 GMT
> So far it seems only the 1.8T coils have had the letter sent.
> Check the coil and if it is not one of a certain group of OK coils, replace
> it

Reading through Volkswagen forums on www.vwvortex.com, someone posted
the following URL:
http://www.vwcoils.com
That's a site that Volkswagen created for information about the ignition
coil recall.  There's an option on the left that says "Is My Vehicle
Affected?", and for models with the 2.5L engine, it lists the
notification date as March 2010 - August 2010.

For cars that have a potentially significant problem, that seems like a
long wait for a notification letter and fix.  VW has said that there is
a shortage of new ignition coils; however, since VW has known about this
problem for quite a while, I'd think they would be more prepared for it.

I'd think that a car company would want to fix serious issues like this
quickly, but 2001-2007 is quite a while - That implies that VW has sold
quite a few cars that might have this ignition coil issue.

I always used to hear that VWs were known for reliability, and I own a
VW myself (a 2009 Rabbit), so it's disappointing to think that they've
had a problem like this for so long.

Eric
In2hoppn - 29 Oct 2009 12:28 GMT
> I always used to hear that VWs were known for reliability, and I own a
> VW myself (a 2009 Rabbit), so it's disappointing to think that they've
> had a problem like this for so long.

When / where did you use to hear THAT?
: )
Eric O. - 29 Oct 2009 18:29 GMT
>> I always used to hear that VWs were known for reliability, and I own a
>> VW myself (a 2009 Rabbit), so it's disappointing to think that they've
>> had a problem like this for so long.
>
> When / where did you use to hear THAT?
> : )

From many different people, including people who owned VWs, in the 80s
through mid 90s or so. :)
Erik Dillenkofer - 30 Oct 2009 00:27 GMT
Nah, the 80's weren't any good either. I only got 18 years and 314,000 miles
on my '83 GTI before I sold it (with the original engine) ... and bought my
'01 Jetta TDI which now has 200,000 miles on it. :-)

>>> I always used to hear that VWs were known for reliability, and I own a
>>> VW myself (a 2009 Rabbit), so it's disappointing to think that they've
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> From many different people, including people who owned VWs, in the 80s
> through mid 90s or so. :)
Eric O. - 30 Oct 2009 17:52 GMT
> Nah, the 80's weren't any good either. I only got 18 years and 314,000
> miles on my '83 GTI before I sold it (with the original engine) ... and
> bought my '01 Jetta TDI which now has 200,000 miles on it. :-)

"Only" 314,000 miles and 18 years?  I'd say that's pretty good.  :)  I
knew someone who had a 1980 Scirocco that he eventually sold after about
18 years and more than 200,000 miles - and it still had the original
engine, and even the original clutch.

Eric
Erik Dillenkofer - 31 Oct 2009 00:36 GMT
I had to replace the clutch at 162,000 miles ... of course I read electric
meters at the time and drove from house to house to house all day long.

You'd think the clutch would last longer than that ... doggone unreliable
cars!

>> Nah, the 80's weren't any good either. I only got 18 years and 314,000
>> miles on my '83 GTI before I sold it (with the original engine) ... and
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Eric
JettaPZ - 30 Oct 2009 19:15 GMT
> > I always used to hear that VWs were known for reliability, and I own a
> > VW myself (a 2009 Rabbit), so it's disappointing to think that they've
> > had a problem like this for so long.
>
> When / where did you use to hear THAT?
> : )

Nah, they ain't good for nothin'...

Two VW's sacrificed themselves for my family and I...
The '80 Rabbit went 19 years and 175K before I had to put it down
because
of a tear in the pan under the seat...
The '81 pickup survived a slew of butthead owners before I rescued
it...
Still have it.
The '88 Golf just went to a friend's son at 237K...
The '99 Jetta has been astoundingly reliable, even with a supercharger
The '00 Golf is happily transporting my spouse around, with nary a
peep.

Guess I'll have to invest in some Detroit, er, Washington DC iron next
NOT!!
dave AKA vwdoc1 - 31 Oct 2009 00:19 GMT
Which Supercharger did you go with on the '99?
I am still running my '83 GTi engine but I want a little more pep OR a lot
more pep.  <g>

Ign Coils had issues starting with the VR6 engines and the 2.0 engines.  So
why not the 1.8t.  lol
Usually they can be repaired/resealed with a little time and a little money.

Knock on my wood, my '97 1.8t engine probably still has the original ign.
coils and they are doing well along with that ign module.
BTW I only own one VW, a '70 Beetle, but I do own a couple of Audis (1983 &
1997).  <g>
Signature

later,
(One out of many daves)

On Oct 29, 8:25 am, "In2hoppn" <in2ho...@worldpath.net> wrote:
> > I always used to hear that VWs were known for reliability, and I own a
> > VW myself (a 2009 Rabbit), so it's disappointing to think that they've
> > had a problem like this for so long.
>
> When / where did you use to hear THAT?
> : )

Nah, they ain't good for nothin'...

Two VW's sacrificed themselves for my family and I...
The '80 Rabbit went 19 years and 175K before I had to put it down
because
of a tear in the pan under the seat...
The '81 pickup survived a slew of butthead owners before I rescued
it...
Still have it.
The '88 Golf just went to a friend's son at 237K...
The '99 Jetta has been astoundingly reliable, even with a supercharger
The '00 Golf is happily transporting my spouse around, with nary a
peep.

Guess I'll have to invest in some Detroit, er, Washington DC iron next
NOT!!
JettaPZ - 31 Oct 2009 18:16 GMT
On Oct 30, 7:19 pm, "dave AKA vwdoc1" <vwdoc1nos...@pleasehotmail.com>
wrote:
> Which Supercharger did you go with on the '99?
> I am still running my '83 GTi engine but I want a little more pep OR a lot
> more pep.  <g>

>  <snip>

Hey Dave,

After doing most of the other stuff to the '99 2.0L, (exhaust, chip,
brakes, suspension)  I opted for the NS supercharger. Took a while to
get it all dialed in;
not that it ran bad, just after some fine tuning, it is very happy.
Went with the 2.6'' pulley and the TT cam that is the equivalent of
the one in the Corrado.
What amazed me was the highway MPG went up after the blower went on.
All I could figure is the flow, even w/o boost, was better. One issue
I did run into was some pinging
even on 93 octane in hot conditions. Took a crack at it with the
evoheatshield phenolic spacers on the intake - pinging gone for good.
Had to fabricate a new LH top mount for the
blower, but was it worth it! You have to listen real close to tell it
has a blower at idle, but open the throttle and there is a very
satisfying whine. She'll eat a 4.6L mustang for lunch
most any day - have shutdown a few of those. You should see the look
on their faces when a stock looking VW comes screaming out of the hole
and zips right by 'em.

The blower isn't for everyone; a turbo has it's own benefits and lower
cost. But the blower gives instantaneous grunt, even at low rpm. While
I love wringing it out
getting on a interstate - 85 in third, 105 in fourth easy, and when
she gets the bit in her mouth in fifth, she just motors her way around
most everything; the ability to
just stomp on the throttle in 5th and GO! always makes me smile.

If you go for it, might I suggest bigger sway bars, sport springs and
struts, braided brake lines with great pads, and slotted/drilled
rotors? Going fast requires better handling,
and the ability to stop quick too.

HTH
dave AKA vwdoc1 - 01 Nov 2009 14:16 GMT
Your setup makes me smile too HTH!  <g>

Yeah I dream a lot about boosting the power on my '83 GTi engine ('83 Audi
4000s), so I like to hear what others have done to their VW based engines.
I thought about the Corrado engine and installing it complete or the
Supercharger setup.
Some Audi 4000 cars had the 5 cylinder engines and some 5 cylinder engines
had turbos.  SOOO a lot of possibilities are out there for me depending on
the amount of work I care to do.  ;-)
I do have the 1.8t in my '97 Audi A4 and it has very nice power, but it
makes me desire more out of my old 4000s.  <g>

So in your case did you upgrade to the VR6 components, Brakes/Suspension
etc. to make your '99 more balanced but stock?  I like "bolt-on" stock
components that are readily and inexpensively obtained.

thanks for the receipe since this will probably always be a dream for me!
;-)
later,
One out of many daves

On Oct 30, 7:19 pm, "dave AKA vwdoc1" <vwdoc1nos...@pleasehotmail.com>
wrote:
> Which Supercharger did you go with on the '99?
> I am still running my '83 GTi engine but I want a little more pep OR a lot
> more pep. <g>

>  <snip>

Hey Dave,

After doing most of the other stuff to the '99 2.0L, (exhaust, chip,
brakes, suspension)  I opted for the NS supercharger. Took a while to
get it all dialed in;
not that it ran bad, just after some fine tuning, it is very happy.
Went with the 2.6'' pulley and the TT cam that is the equivalent of
the one in the Corrado.
What amazed me was the highway MPG went up after the blower went on.
All I could figure is the flow, even w/o boost, was better. One issue
I did run into was some pinging
even on 93 octane in hot conditions. Took a crack at it with the
evoheatshield phenolic spacers on the intake - pinging gone for good.
Had to fabricate a new LH top mount for the
blower, but was it worth it! You have to listen real close to tell it
has a blower at idle, but open the throttle and there is a very
satisfying whine. She'll eat a 4.6L mustang for lunch
most any day - have shutdown a few of those. You should see the look
on their faces when a stock looking VW comes screaming out of the hole
and zips right by 'em.

The blower isn't for everyone; a turbo has it's own benefits and lower
cost. But the blower gives instantaneous grunt, even at low rpm. While
I love wringing it out
getting on a interstate - 85 in third, 105 in fourth easy, and when
she gets the bit in her mouth in fifth, she just motors her way around
most everything; the ability to
just stomp on the throttle in 5th and GO! always makes me smile.

If you go for it, might I suggest bigger sway bars, sport springs and
struts, braided brake lines with great pads, and slotted/drilled
rotors? Going fast requires better handling,
and the ability to stop quick too.

HTH
JettaPZ - 01 Nov 2009 21:19 GMT
Hey Dave,

First, just FYI, the HTH was the "hope that helps" :-)
I'm Mike...

I lucked out; the '99 Wolfsburg Edition came with a boatload of
goodies, not the least of which was the "plus" suspension, and most of
the options
from the A3 line other than leather seats and the VR6. I walked into
the dealer to see what was available and bought the Jetta WE. They
were the last of the
A3s to come off the line. Some might have been disappointed to get the
A3 instead of the A4, but I'm very pleased with her. She earned her
keep as my
"service" vehicle as a support engineer for 7.5 years - always got
pleasant reviews from customers who rode to lunch, etc... Now she's
"semi-retired".

The NS supercharger is designed around the crossflow head from the ABA
and AEG engines. I'm not familar with the Audi engines enough to know
if you have
a crossflow head. I suppose you could put an ABA head on it if
necessary. If I ever get the head off mine, it's getting a port and
polish to flow better.

You could put the euro-G grind cam in yours, I suppose. Find a used NS
big bore throttle body, maybe?
Get a 4 into 2 exhaust manifold and a TT catback exhaust? I'm sure
there are several options!
Plan your upgrades well in advance and just slog your way through
collecting them.

Good luck with your project! Currently I'm working on restoring the
'81 pickup.

Best Regards,
JPZ

Regarding theOn Nov 1, 9:16 am, "dave AKA vwdoc1"
<vwdoc1nos...@pleasehotmail.com> wrote:
> Your setup makes me smile too HTH!  <g>
>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> later,
> One out of many daves
dave AKA vwdoc1 - 02 Nov 2009 01:48 GMT
lol
Thanks Mike,
I have a buddy who recently restored his Pickup using the Passat 16V engine
and wheels.  It is gorgeous!!!
Good luck with your project too!

With my '83 Audi 4000s, I could install most of the VW engines, ABA, AEG,
etc. if I can get the correct oil pump & pan to fit above my subframe.  Audi
did make a 2.0l engine but without the crossflow head.  That would be an
easy upgrade for mine and those engines can be found cheaply now.
IF I ever find the bolt-on Supercharger that were built for the Rabbits, I
would try that on mine first.
That is a project waaaaay back on the stove not even over a burner.  lol

I am glad that others have sooo much fun modifying theirs, loving them more
and telling the stories to entertain people like me.  ;-)
later,
One out of many daves

Hey Dave,

First, just FYI, the HTH was the "hope that helps" :-)
I'm Mike...

I lucked out; the '99 Wolfsburg Edition came with a boatload of
goodies, not the least of which was the "plus" suspension, and most of
the options
from the A3 line other than leather seats and the VR6. I walked into
the dealer to see what was available and bought the Jetta WE. They
were the last of the
A3s to come off the line. Some might have been disappointed to get the
A3 instead of the A4, but I'm very pleased with her. She earned her
keep as my
"service" vehicle as a support engineer for 7.5 years - always got
pleasant reviews from customers who rode to lunch, etc... Now she's
"semi-retired".

The NS supercharger is designed around the crossflow head from the ABA
and AEG engines. I'm not familar with the Audi engines enough to know
if you have
a crossflow head. I suppose you could put an ABA head on it if
necessary. If I ever get the head off mine, it's getting a port and
polish to flow better.

You could put the euro-G grind cam in yours, I suppose. Find a used NS
big bore throttle body, maybe?
Get a 4 into 2 exhaust manifold and a TT catback exhaust? I'm sure
there are several options!
Plan your upgrades well in advance and just slog your way through
collecting them.

Good luck with your project! Currently I'm working on restoring the
'81 pickup.

Best Regards,
JPZ

Regarding theOn Nov 1, 9:16 am, "dave AKA vwdoc1"
<vwdoc1nos...@pleasehotmail.com> wrote:
> Your setup makes me smile too HTH! <g>
>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> later,
> One out of many daves
JettaPZ - 01 Nov 2009 21:21 GMT
Hey Dave,

First, just FYI, the HTH was the "hope that helps" :-)
I'm Mike...

I lucked out; the '99 Wolfsburg Edition came with a boatload of
goodies, not the least of which was the "plus" suspension, and most of
the options
from the A3 line other than leather seats and the VR6. I walked into
the dealer to see what was available and bought the Jetta WE. They
were the last of the
A3s to come off the line. Some might have been disappointed to get the
A3 instead of the A4, but I'm very pleased with her. She earned her
keep as my
"service" vehicle as a support engineer for 7.5 years - always got
pleasant reviews from customers who rode to lunch, etc... Now she's
"semi-retired".

The NS supercharger is designed around the crossflow head from the ABA
and AEG engines. I'm not familar with the Audi engines enough to know
if you have
a crossflow head. I suppose you could put an ABA head on it if
necessary. If I ever get the head off mine, it's getting a port and
polish to flow better.

You could put the euro-G grind cam in yours, I suppose. Find a used NS
big bore throttle body, maybe?
Get a 4 into 2 exhaust manifold and a TT catback exhaust? I'm sure
there are several options!
Plan your upgrades well in advance and just slog your way through
collecting them.

Good luck with your project! Currently I'm working on restoring the
'81 pickup.

Best Regards,
JPZ

On Nov 1, 9:16 am, "dave AKA vwdoc1" <vwdoc1nos...@pleasehotmail.com>
wrote:
> Your setup makes me smile too HTH!  <g>
>
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> > I am still running my '83 GTi engine but I want a little more pep OR a lot
> > more pep. <g>
LG - 29 Oct 2009 16:03 GMT
The mailings will be done in batches and so far the ones released seem to be
only for the 1.8T

>> So far it seems only the 1.8T coils have had the letter sent.
>> Check the coil and if it is not one of a certain group of OK coils,
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
> Eric
Bert Hyman - 29 Oct 2009 20:47 GMT
In news:Xns9CB262CB3FD66VeebleFetzer@216.250.184.7 Bert Hyman
<bert@iphouse.com> wrote:

> there's a "Customer Campaign Reimbursement Claim Form" included,
> although they don't make any mention of it in the cover letter.

Umm... well... it's on the back.

The front looked rather complete, so I never bothered to turn it over.

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