Re: Coolant Color/Type
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Re: Coolant Color/Type
| Fred W | 29 Sep 2006 14:09 |
> As usual, Fred, you didn't bother to look at the link I had on my post. If > you DID, then you would have read it contains NO SILICATES. Quote from the [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > e.. Longer lasting (Dex-Cool has been shown to remain above 95% of its > original concentration after 150,000 miles in automobiles) You are correct. I did not follow your link. Not all DexCool coolants are the same. Being DexCool just means the coolant meets GM's long-life specs for OAT coolant. Many DexCools are not silicate free.
But the more important thing is that they all do work based on a low pH (Organic *Acid*). This is especially bad for any cooling systems that have ferrous metal (cast iron) as any air entrapped in the system will rust.
Since your into online citations: http://www.safehydraulics.com/downloads/download_common.cfm?file=MOTORCoolantFea ture.pdf&folder=brochure#search=%22OAT%20coolant%20BMW%22
Quoting from the above: "The inhibitor 2-EHA poses another issue: It’s a plasticizer (softens plastic), so it has been blamed for coolant passage gasket leakage. Softening (and the resulting distortion) was reported by Ford, which encountered gasket leakage problems when it tested a DexCooltype formula on its V8 engines. Ford also saw similar issues with other gasket materials. That killed the OAT coolant idea for Ford, which had used a Dex-Cool-like coolant in the ’99 Cougar V6."
BMWs have a lot of plastic in their cooling systems. BMW does not recommend OAT Type coolants in their engines, especially the older ones we are talking about here.
> I only dispense advice based on what I experienced or researched beyond a > reasonable doubt. If someone refutes my info, and I can verify I was [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > quite a bit of opinion on this board, what gives you the right? Nothing I've > offered here has been wrong in the years I've been posting. I agree with what you say about it being up to the reader to decide what advice to take on usenet. And I was definitely being a bit too harsh in my questioning your giving advice. But my advice is NOT to diverge from the specifications set out already by the manufacturer, and so does not really require a whole bunch of expert testimony.
That said, I still believe that using OAT coolant in a BMW is a really bad idea, especially if it's just to save $5, or because it is convenient to buy.
YMMV
 Signature -Fred W
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| Bill | 28 Sep 2006 16:16 |
Bill wrote:
> <smb7420@aol.com> wrote in message > news:1159329183.416212.61300@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > Well, i had the thermostat changed on my car when it had a check > coolant issue and it kept draining > Original post here: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos.bmw/browse_thread/thread/6bff7248a1
> b610f6/cbd2697a9b2a3362?lnk=raot#cbd2697a9b2a3362 > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > It's also $10/gallon at Wal-mart or any auto parts store. ...and that's a really bad idea. Dexcool is an OAT coolant and contains a large amount of silicates. Whatever gave you the idea that this was a good coolant for your BMW? Or that you should dispense advice about what coolant to use in other people's BMWs?
-- -Fred W ----- And it's on... As usual, Fred, you didn't bother to look at the link I had on my post. If you DID, then you would have read it contains NO SILICATES. Quote from the link: Dex-Cool (ethylene glycol) is identical to the Chrysler & General Motors factory fill. Havoline had the original patent on Dex-Cool and manufactures it for GM. The benefits of Dex-Cool are:
a.. Lower alkalinity b.. Contains NO silicates, resulting in longer lasting water pump and engine seals; longer shelf life. c.. It is Nitrite-, borate-, phosphate-, nitrate- and amine-free. d.. 100% biodegradable in its pure unused condition. e.. Longer lasting (Dex-Cool has been shown to remain above 95% of its original concentration after 150,000 miles in automobiles) I only dispense advice based on what I experienced or researched beyond a reasonable doubt. If someone refutes my info, and I can verify I was mistaken, then I humbly correct myself and make it available to those I misinformed. Advice is just that. It's up to the respective owners to use it or discard it. No warranty implied or offered. Since I see you offering quite a bit of opinion on this board, what gives you the right? Nothing I've offered here has been wrong in the years I've been posting.
Bill in Omaha '86 535i
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| Fred W | 28 Sep 2006 14:25 |
> Well, i had the thermostat changed on my car when it had a check > coolant issue and it kept draining [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > It's also $10/gallon at Wal-mart or any auto parts store. ...and that's a really bad idea. Dexcool is an OAT coolant and contains a large amount of silicates. Whatever gave you the idea that this was a good coolant for your BMW? Or that you should dispense advice about what coolant to use in other people's BMWs?
 Signature -Fred W
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| Bill | 27 Sep 2006 13:56 |
Well, i had the thermostat changed on my car when it had a check coolant issue and it kept draining Original post here: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos.bmw/browse_thread/thread/6bff7248a1 b610f6/cbd2697a9b2a3362?lnk=raot#cbd2697a9b2a3362
However, i wanted to know what color the bmw antifreeze is, the stuff in there is green, and i've read that its supposed to be blue and if it isnt, its some harmful aluminum engine destroyer. Any more info about what to put in there and where to get it(yeah i know i can grab some from bmw) would be great. -----
I just changed my coolant and used the Texaco-Havoline DEX-COOL Extended Life. It meets the aluminum radiator issues and is free of the harmful corrosion stuff. Here's a link: http://www.getahelmet.com/jeeps/maint/dexcool/
It's also $10/gallon at Wal-mart or any auto parts store.
Bill in Omaha '86 535i
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| smb7420@aol.com | 27 Sep 2006 03:53 |
Well, i had the thermostat changed on my car when it had a check coolant issue and it kept draining Original post here: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos.bmw/browse_thread/thread/6bff7248a1b610 f6/cbd2697a9b2a3362?lnk=raot#cbd2697a9b2a3362
However, i wanted to know what color the bmw antifreeze is, the stuff in there is green, and i've read that its supposed to be blue and if it isnt, its some harmful aluminum engine destroyer. Any more info about what to put in there and where to get it(yeah i know i can grab some from bmw) would be great.
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