You are accessing this site in a read-only mode. For full access to all member benefits, including message posting, please login or register. Registration is completely free, simple, and takes only a few seconds.
The message you are replying to and its parents are listed in the reverse order with the most recent posts first. This might not be the whole discussion thread. To read all the messages in this thread please click here.
Re: Poor E39 handbrake.
Dean Dark
30 Nov 2006 00:11
>Snag with the E39 handbrake is it's the same on a manual. Must make hill >starts fun. ;-) Last manual I had with this system was an E28 and it was >ok. My E34 was an auto, but I remember that handbrake being better.
My e39 is a relatively new properly (whatever...) maintained manual gearbox, but the handbrake won't hold it on anything more than a moderate hill. The handbrake on the much older e30 I have bites like a bastard, you could do 30 mph handbrake turns with it.
Signature
Dan.
Dave Plowman (News)
29 Nov 2006 23:20
> As you say, with an auto you don't really need a h/brake, but I am aware > of of the irritation to a following driver, at say traffic lights, if > you sit there with your foot on the brake.
I always plonk it into park if I know I've got a wait before moving off. Always have done with autos.
Snag with the E39 handbrake is it's the same on a manual. Must make hill starts fun. ;-) Last manual I had with this system was an E28 and it was ok. My E34 was an auto, but I remember that handbrake being better.
Signature
*Prepositions are not words to end sentences with *
Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound.
Mike G
29 Nov 2006 10:38
>> Have any E39's got good h/brakes? >> Auto 528i [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > procedure but with it being an auto you don;t really need a parking > brake anyway. I rarely use mine - I think I'm turning american.
As you say, with an auto you don't really need a h/brake, but I am aware of of the irritation to a following driver, at say traffic lights, if you sit there with your foot on the brake. On a level road I'd often stick it in neutral. At least now if I use neutral, the h/brake will hold on a slight slope. Something it wouldn't do before. By the state of the drums in the old discs, I think it's a question of use it or lose it. The braking surface was quite heavily rusted, something that's bound to happen if the h/brake is rarely used. The rusted surface was quite heavily glazed, as were the shoe linings. The reason they were so innefective when I bought the car, about 3 months ago. Mike.
adder1969
29 Nov 2006 09:53
> Have any E39's got good h/brakes? > Auto 528i [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > It did pass the MOT though, which was my main concern. > Mike.
I recently did the ones on my 740 which I would wager has a stronger pull at idle in gear than yours and it holds it but I often drive 10-20 yards before the computer tells me the parking brake is still on. On the 7 the parking brake is foot operated.
If the garage did the work they probably didn't test it or passed it thinking it will bed in which it will if you follow the correct procedure but with it being an auto you don;t really need a parking brake anyway. I rarely use mine - I think I'm turning american.
All drum-in-disc brakes on BMWs and most other cars are poor compared to the old style main drum shoe operated ones. On rally cars the handbrake is usually upgraded to hydraulically operated to be able to do handbrake turns but at least in the UK that's not legal for the test.
Mike G
28 Nov 2006 20:59
Have any E39's got good h/brakes? Auto 528i Had new rear discs, pads, and shoes fitted today. Handbrake is still very poor. I'm nor exactly a weakling, but without using the footbrake I can't pull it on hard enough to stop the car creeping on tickover, which is only about 750 rpm. It did pass the MOT though, which was my main concern. Mike.