Now, I'm not calling you a liar, but you should know that your street
cred is *seriously* injured by your inability to spell Weber.  I'll
bet you don't know how to pronounce it, either...

Once upon a time I only bought FORD cars - you have probably never heard of
them. Classic (UK version of the Monterey) with reversed sloping rear window and
no parcel shelf. Then a Zephyr (UK name with US origins) then a Zodiac US
styling with UK mechanicals.  Trip into unknown territory an Austin
'Vanden-Plas' 4 litre R with a RR engine (from the Champ army truck I must add).
Then a couple of Imps by ROOTS or Chrysler by then. Back to Ford for the Mk2
Cortina GT then a Mk2 Lotus then back to a Mk2 with a 3 liter V6 (Home brew)
then a Granada 3 litre V6 auto.  Whilst in the "trade" I had several RR shadows,
a couple of Ferraris a Dino V6 and an old superleggera or as you might know it
the Super America?? Then my First BMW E3 3.3LiA --- many other BMWs followed
3.3LiA 3.0CSL then divorce but now back on track with my 3rd in the past 10
years.

BTW my Lamborghini P400 Muria was one of the best real super cars I have ever
owned both for pleasure and posing and pulling........... Bright Yellow, 4 liter
V 12 transverse and 6 downdraught Webber carbs behind your left ear!

 Oscar@nowhere.com wrote:

As I said: I'm an enthusiast-not a FANATIC. It's painful for you to admit
Ford has done anything right, EVER.I'm really happy the Vanquish & DB9 exist.
You vaguely concede such points only to follow it with- BUT.blah blah blah.
Relax. Are Lamboghinis crap because of their tractor origins? Here's an easy
one..Tell me how horrible the LR3 is. Oh, & I don't care any about the Mondeo.
...that's a car for  Consumer Reports staff. I  mean really; lets talk about

How can you claim to be an enthusiast when we talk about the "Ford Jaguar". If
you were talking about a FORD FORD then I might agree as the new Mondeo here in
Euroland is a real nice bit of kit but when you get the Ford Jaguar being a
re-bodied Mondeo then it automatically becomes CRAP and not a JAGUAR.  

Same goes for Aston Martin but Ford have now unloaded that to someone that will
take the care to maintain the breed.  I admit Ford's intervention in Aston's
affairs, especially pumping more money than sense into it, saved their bacon and
it eventually became a better car but......... being a clone of the Jaguar XK-E
it was only bought by people with more money than sense the same as the new RR -
Land-Rover look alike.

Jaguar as a brand is failing here and sales are falling like snow in Colorado in
the winter.  The engineering is great and I cannot fault it as the ideas are the
same as most prestige car makers using aluminium and space-age materials where
possible however, the insides are all FORD MONDEO clones albeit with leather and
wood but still available in the standard range of rep-mobiles or family cars
where there is no prestige in having one or even driving one.

Little man you have a filthy mouth. As an enthusiast I appreciate fine cars
but do not blindly defend them. Not all things Ford are horrible, just as not
all things BMW are brilliant.

I thought we didn't top post here?

Obviously you shop at the wrong stores. Or really is it just KNOCK BMW because
you f.cked up!

You must be one of the few POMS not to visit Florida- Bmw's are as useful
here as a Ferrari in Manhatten rush hour. And beyond warranty the costs are
eye-watering ($300 for a battery, $1500 for rotors that can't be shaved etc.)

If this teaches you anything then it must be DON'T BUY A FORD of any
description.

You seem to be the type of person that does not inspect or test drive all the
car and it toys before buying and then spend $$$$ for a load of crap.

Cavet Emptor is the words that should be ringing in your ears now. fortunately
we have laws in the UK that minimise this type of thing but we still have
w.nkers (jerks) that ignore all warnings.

Why didn't you ask for the name and address of the previous owner?

Why didn't you get a professional check on the vehicle?

Why didn't you buy a BMW?

The following is from a complaint I just register with the BBB. If you've
had similar problems please contact me...
I purchased a Jaguar XKR from CARMAX's Davie Store on 5/19/07. At which time
I noticed several problems with the car that needed to be fixed. I reported
the issues and left the car with them for repair. When I picked up the car I
noticed that most of my issues were not addressed. While waiting for parts
to arrive for the second round of repairs, I took the car home for a few
days. I found numerous other repair issues. I found 12 warrantee issues.
When I brought the car back I gave the Service Manager, Sammy Warnamally a
printed list, and copies of CARMAX's certification form showing why these
items were covered. I brought my car in on 6/1/07. When I got my car back 14
DAYS later discovered 1) stereo wasn't fixed, 2) second set of keys and
valet key were not in yet, 3) convertible cover was not ordered, 4) trim
around the door handle wasn't addressed 5) visor wasn't replaced "because
Jaguar sent them the wrong part." 6) now the rear view mirror is loose as if
the car suffered a heavy impact or was driven a long distance down a dirt
road. Caked on white mud is on the inside door panels. For 2 weeks I have
been strung along by the service manager. When I asked to pick up my car
until the parts arrived, I was repeatedly told the seats were taken apart
and awaiting a headrest motor from Jaguar so I could not pick it up. Jaguar
Parts Department told me their delivery takes a week at most and parts can
be overnighted for a nominal cost of $6 per item. I was lied to that my car
was ready except for the headrest motors. I was also lied to about the extra
set of keys being there. Despite involvement of Operations Manager Adam
Warner and General Manager Theresa, my vehicle is still not fixed. I have
lost many hours work, suffered grief, and have had to pay $606 payment for a
car I was only able to drive a few days. I am releasing this to the Media,
posting my story on Internet consumer protection websites, forums and
newsgroups to get together a class action lawsuit. I am registering a
complaint with the Attorney General's Office and State Attorney's Office, as
I suspect foul play.
As it is impossible to trust CARMAX, I want all further repairs to be done
at Alpine Jaguar. I want Jaguar to inspect the car for accident/abuse
damage. Compensation for my monthly payment to Capital One for $606. My lost
time and wages estimated at 6 hours at $150 an hour. Grief and punitive
damages will be addressed in another arena.

Stephen Horrillo advancitREMOVETHIS@comcast.net