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Re: Flood damage to car engines

Oscar@nowhere.com25 Jun 2007 15:41
>>> Your all over inflated ego planks sorry yanks on this web site, who are
>>> related to the potatoe and as "Clarkson" says have been breeding with
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>That's a good suggestion.  While he is learning to spell, you can learn
>to put together a sentence.

No Chance Oops! No chance

Mike Scheer24 Jun 2007 21:49
>> Your all over inflated ego planks sorry yanks on this web site, who are
>> related to the potatoe and as "Clarkson" says have been breeding with
>> vegatables for years. Your preident speaks voulumes for you.plus your cars
>> sell so well ouside of the USA and we supply all your indy car engines!
>
> Learn to spell or shut up you make it worse for the rest of us.

That's a good suggestion.  While he is learning to spell, you can learn
to put together a sentence.

Oscar@nowhere.com24 Jun 2007 18:48
>Your all over inflated ego planks sorry yanks on this web site, who are
>related to the potatoe and as "Clarkson" says have been breeding with
>vegatables for years. Your preident speaks voulumes for you.plus your cars
>sell so well ouside of the USA and we supply all your indy car engines!

Learn to spell or shut up you make it worse for the rest of us.

bradthomas24 Jun 2007 15:54
Your all over inflated ego planks sorry yanks on this web site, who are
related to the potatoe and as "Clarkson" says have been breeding with
vegatables for years. Your preident speaks voulumes for you.plus your cars
sell so well ouside of the USA and we supply all your indy car engines!

Jed22 Jun 2007 16:19
>I dont know if most of you taking this seriously in the write context.

A John Lennon fan then?

>I have worked on engines since I was a boy and my Dad has been an Engineer
>within the car industry for 40 years and this problem can be prevented by
>sensors that can cause engine shut down. The fact you are talking as if
>this was done on purpose? In England floods are an every month occurance
>and I have been through hundreds of floods in my time some a lot deeper
>than this one was.

Then you have been very lucky. Every year all around the world news
reports show cars that have drowned trying to cross flooded areas. I
guess BMW thinks its clientelle is sufficiently intelligent to know
that the car is not designed for fording creeks and floods like Land
Rovers and Jeeps. IIRC, the BMW manual also does not mention the
inadvisability of running the car in a closed, unventilated garage.
Perhaps they should be told?

>So the manufactures have a responsability to point out
>the dangers in their handbook but they dont why?

Like the warning label on electric heaters "Do not use in the shower"
or on the dessicant packages that come packed with electronics "Do Not
Eat!"?

bradthomas22 Jun 2007 15:54
I dont know if most of you taking this seriously in the write context. I
have worked on engines since I was a boy and my Dad has been an Engineer
within the car industry for 40 years and this problem can be prevented by
sensors that can cause engine shut down. The fact you are talking as if
this was done on purpose? In England floods are an every month occurance
and I have been through hundreds of floods in my time some a lot deeper
than this one was. So the manufactures have a responsability to point out
the dangers in their handbook but they dont why?

Psycho22 Jun 2007 15:05
>Due to the recent downpours we have had there has been lots of flooding
>country wide. Unfortunately I drove my 6 month old BMW 335d Coupe into
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>dealer. I have since found out that the engine as been wrote off along
>with turbo's and intercooler and the bill is above 15k to repair the car.

 Congratulations, your stupidity has killed a car. Replace it with
something cheaper until you learn your lesson...

>At the BMW garage they have had above 10 cars this week with the same
>problem and my friend who is the head mechanic at the local Mercedes
>garage has had over 40 with the same problem.

>Apparently the water goes through the air intake into the engine prevents
>the piston compressing and then the con rods go through the engine sides.

 Water does not compress. You can put it under pressure, but you
can't compress it. What has happened to your engine is a result of
attempting to do so. At least you have now had the opportunity to
learn this.

>What I cannot understand is why do they not tell you this?

 Take any science classes in school?

>If you new the damage that could be done no one would attempt to go through floods

 You're giving poeple WAY too much credit. Never underestimate the
power of stupid people in large numbers...

>The other thing is this is a modern car problem as older cars air intake was on top
>off the engine and no such damage ever ocurred.

 The older cars suffered from cracked exhaust manifold and sometimes
even engine blocks as the hot CAST IRON parts were cooled rapidly by
cold water.

>I am covered by my insurance but have obviously got to pay my excess.

 You're lucky they're paying anything...

>I feel this is a scam by the car manufacturers and
>dealers because there must be a way of preventing this from happening but
>its obviously not in there interest to prevent it as the income that it
>generates for the garages is an income paid by the insurance. I.e free
>turnover!

 So it's all one big conspiracy? Are you kidding? If it were really
that big of a problem, don't you think there would be a public outcry
or something? Not in thier best interest? If the cars they built were
widely known to have major faults, do you think they'd be selling many
of them?

>I would just like someone who as expierenced this or nows more
>about it to enlighten me as to why this is happening???

 See the text inserted above and maybe you'll get a grip on what
happened. If not, I'm not sure what to tell you other than to buy a
bicycle. They'll go through as much water as you want to pedal through
(although you might want to repack the bearings afterwards to avoid
having to point the finger at the bicycle manufacturer later down the
road). In case you are wondering why, the bearings will eventually
rust due to the excess moisture trapped in the bearing cavity. I doubt
you're going to find anyone that is going to side with you on this.
Good luck however...

bradthomas21 Jun 2007 14:49
Due to the recent downpours we have had there has been lots of flooding
country wide. Unfortunately I drove my 6 month old BMW 335d Coupe into
such a flood. Other cars were passing through it and once my turn came I
atempted to go through the flood about 1foot high. My car stopped dead
about 5m into the flood and I phoned BMW emergency who took my car to a
dealer. I have since found out that the engine as been wrote off along
with turbo's and intercooler and the bill is above 15k to repair the car.
At the BMW garage they have had above 10 cars this week with the same
problem and my friend who is the head mechanic at the local Mercedes
garage has had over 40 with the same problem. Apparently the water goes
through the air intake into the engine prevents the piston compressing and
then the con rods go through the engine sides. What I cannot understand is
why do they not tell you this? If you new the damage that could be done no
one would attempt to go through floods. The other thing is this is a modern
car problem as older cars air intake was on top off the engine and no such
damage ever ocurred. I am covered by my insurance but have obviously got
to pay my excess. I feel this is a scam by the car manufacturers and
dealers because there must be a way of preventing this from happening but
its obviously not in there interest to prevent it as the income that it
generates for the garages is an income paid by the insurance. I.e free
turnover! I would just like someone who as expierenced this or nows more
about it to enlighten me as to why this is happening???

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