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Re: K&N Panel Air Filter - better performance?
Fred W
25 Sep 2007 21:36
>>You'll have to explain how using a K&N brand panel airfilter in lieu of >>the normal paper airfilter will allow "crap" to reach the MAF. Do you [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Personally I wouldn't worry about the MAP so much as I'd worry about > increased cylinder wear.
Bing!! That's what I was saying. Explain how the MAP sensor gives a crap about what filter is on there.
> In a street vehicle, if you want increased air flow, your best solution > might be a much larger filter or dual filters.
Or no filter? Lots of airflow for a short time.
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Scott Dorsey
25 Sep 2007 14:06
>You'll have to explain how using a K&N brand panel airfilter in lieu of >the normal paper airfilter will allow "crap" to reach the MAF. Do you >have some direct experience in such crap infestation, or are you merely >parroting some other compaintant?
The data sheet on the K&N filter will explain it for you. The minimum particle size it will trap is larger than that of typical paper filters.
If you want more airflow through a filter, you either need to increase the surface area or increase the minimum particle size you can trap. There is no magic to this.
If you are in a racing situation, a high-flow filter is definitely a good idea. If you are driving on dirt roads, a high-flow filter is probably a bad idea and in the case of the K&N you will see dust trapped in the MAP and throttle after a couple thousand miles.
Personally I wouldn't worry about the MAP so much as I'd worry about increased cylinder wear.
In a street vehicle, if you want increased air flow, your best solution might be a much larger filter or dual filters. --scott
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Fred W
25 Sep 2007 01:22
>> >> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > You forgot the added functionality of allowing crap to reach the MAF > causing it to fail and lose 50% engine power!
Sir Hugh,
You'll have to explain how using a K&N brand panel airfilter in lieu of the normal paper airfilter will allow "crap" to reach the MAF. Do you have some direct experience in such crap infestation, or are you merely parroting some other compaintant?
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DCA
24 Sep 2007 07:30
> >> Just wondering if replacing the stock filter with the above would noticeably [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >
You forgot the added functionality of allowing crap to reach the MAF causing it to fail and lose 50% engine power!
hsg@h-gee.co.uk
23 Sep 2007 21:13
>Just wondering if replacing the stock filter with the above would noticeably >improve performance or sound. > >Any comments?
Depends on model but my E38 V8 4.4 had the original filter style but with K&N replacement. The only difference is that you don't swap it out just clean it every 10K or so. No NOTICABLE performance increase.
However if you like induction NOISE then a complete intake kit would give you a restless drive and make your car sound like it's being driven by a mindless moron - you might get 2 BHP from it too.
Sir Hugh of Bognor
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Hurst
23 Sep 2007 18:42
Just wondering if replacing the stock filter with the above would noticeably improve performance or sound.