Re: GM Shifts to Manual Transmissions for Global Warming
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Re: GM Shifts to Manual Transmissions for Global Warming
| 80 Knight | 22 Jul 2007 02:10 |
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> Probably 10% of the people driving today should never have been given a > license in the first place. That I can probably agree with.
> Of the rest, a huge number would never pass the test if they had to drive > a standard. Hmmm, that should be a requirement. No offence Ed, but that's like making it a requirement to know how to hook up your new HD-TV/DVD before you buy one (which most people don't). It's rather pointless. If someone wants to drive a manual transmission car, sure, they need to know what they are doing. For those who like there automatic's, why bother them? Let them have what they want, the same as you can.
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| Edwin Pawlowski | 21 Jul 2007 13:26 |
"Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> The average driver is better off with an automatic. The don't have to > worry about shifting at the right time, starting off on hills, down > shifting for coming down steep hills, lugging the engine or riding the > clutch. And it's hard to steer, shift, hold a cup of coffee and a cell > phone all at the same time! You got that right. And you have to watch for that light on the dashboard that tells you when to shift. What government agency came up with that dumb idea?
Probably 10% of the people driving today should never have been given a license in the first place. Of the rest, a huge number would never pass the test if they had to drive a standard. Hmmm, that should be a requirement.
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| Jeff DeWitt | 21 Jul 2007 11:59 |
> This is utter B.S. because the move to computerized automatics was to better > control the engine and shifting, since many people stay in loer gears too [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >> >> Ted The average driver is better off with an automatic. The don't have to worry about shifting at the right time, starting off on hills, down shifting for coming down steep hills, lugging the engine or riding the clutch. And it's hard to steer, shift, hold a cup of coffee and a cell phone all at the same time!
But then there are a few oddballs like me who pretty much only drive sticks... my last car with an automatic was also my first car, a Studebaker Hawk. My current car is a Jeep Cherokee and the clutch was still working perfectly when the throwout bearing went out at 300,000 miles.
Jeff DeWitt
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| ROY BRAGG | 21 Jul 2007 06:23 |
This is utter B.S. because the move to computerized automatics was to better control the engine and shifting, since many people stay in loer gears too long or bluntly don't know haw to drive a standard. As for repairs, I had a friend that priced a manual rebuild, and it was around $1400 at the time, approaximately the same as for an automatic. Roy
>> The US is also a Hell of a lot bigger than Germany or Japan... and most >> folks either don't like stick shifts or don't even know how to use them. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Ted |
| Ted Mittelstaedt | 20 Jul 2007 09:29 |
> The US is also a Hell of a lot bigger than Germany or Japan... and most > folks either don't like stick shifts or don't even know how to use them. > > And the fact of that matter is that modern automatics are pretty damn > good and the gas mileage difference is pretty minor. Actually, a modern computer-controlled automatic is probably better than most stick drivers in terms of fuel economy.
However, automatics are more complex and a lot more expensive to fix, and do not last as long as manuals due to the complexity.
Ted
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| Jeff DeWitt | 20 Jul 2007 02:28 |
>>>> GM CEO Rick Wagoner described the initiative at a press conference at >>>> the company headquarters in Detroit: "We've been coddling our lazy [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > A more advanced society burns three times as much fuel as Germany and > Japan, and still gets no fun out of it? Funny. The US is also a Hell of a lot bigger than Germany or Japan... and most folks either don't like stick shifts or don't even know how to use them.
And the fact of that matter is that modern automatics are pretty damn good and the gas mileage difference is pretty minor.
Jeff DeWitt
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| donquijote1954 | 20 Jul 2007 01:34 |
> >> GM CEO Rick Wagoner described the initiative at a press conference at > >> the company headquarters in Detroit: "We've been coddling our lazy [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Most of the world also bathes once a week or less too, but that doesn't > mean a more advanced society like ours needs to do the same thing. A more advanced society burns three times as much fuel as Germany and Japan, and still gets no fun out of it? Funny.
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| Jeff DeWitt | 20 Jul 2007 00:29 |
>> GM CEO Rick Wagoner described the initiative at a press conference at >> the company headquarters in Detroit: "We've been coddling our lazy [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Graham Most of the world also bathes once a week or less too, but that doesn't mean a more advanced society like ours needs to do the same thing.
Jeff DeWitt
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| Eeyore | 19 Jul 2007 14:49 |
> GM CEO Rick Wagoner described the initiative at a press conference at > the company headquarters in Detroit: "We've been coddling our lazy > fellow Americans for too long. It's time everyone started using their > left foot. This is what Jesus would do." LOL !
It's what most of the world already does.
Graham
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| donquijote1954 | 19 Jul 2007 14:39 |
GM Shifts to Manual Transmissions for Global Warming
Responding to growing concerns over global warming, General Motors (GM) announced today that it would make all of its vehicles with standard transmissions, starting in 2009. Manual transmissions generally get better fuel mileage than automatics.
GM CEO Rick Wagoner described the initiative at a press conference at the company headquarters in Detroit: "We've been coddling our lazy fellow Americans for too long. It's time everyone started using their left foot. This is what Jesus would do."
Wagoner said that manual transmissions typically get 2-3 mpg better mileage than the same vehicle equipped with an automatic, and that in some cases the difference can be as much as 5 mpg. GM plans to focus on high-efficiency manuals to minimize the company's output of greenhouse gases. Manuals are also generally considered more fun to drive and less expensive to manufacture and maintain.
The GM announcement received a mixed reaction. The late Jerry Falwell rose from his grave to insist that Jesus would have driven a large van with an automatic, because he would need to carry so many of his followers. Other religious leaders hailed the effort to reduce global warming.
On the environmental side, NRDC President Frances Beineke applauded the move and encouraged other auto manufacturers to follow suit.
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