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Re: Injecting gaseous petroleum into the cylinders (instead of atomized liquid)

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Re: Injecting gaseous petroleum into the cylinders (instead of atomized liquid)

cselby@mts.net31 Jul 2007 14:56
>Suppose that our fuel tank was very safe, and 100% safe from
>explosions.

Suppose that you had an onboard fracturing device that would split
water into hydrogen/oxygen.  Then you wouldn't need an outside air
source and the 'gas' tank would become a water tank that you could
heat for no particular purpose except for below 0 weather.

>Instead of fuel injectors, why not heat up the fuel, and pump this
>high pressure gaseous vapor into the pistons?  I would like to see the
>gas tank heated - kind of like a pressure cooker.  And the escaping
>gas vapor gets channeled into the pistons where it's further mixed
>with air.

And how would you inject this mixture into the pistons (more correctly
into the combustion chamber)  and why would you want to?  That would
make it a diesel.

>Currently, liquid gasoline is sprayed into the pistons.  From what I
>understand, the finer the mist, the better and more thorough the
>combustion.

Fuel injected gas engines are in lean burn and with all the controls
to regulate fuel and ignition, you are as efficient as it gets as
opposed to  a carb setup.   Combustion only occurs in the cylinders
under pressure in the presence of spark.  When the spark goes out, the
flame goes out.   Find a way to keep a spark going for the lenght of
the power stroke and see the efficiencies escalate.  Also see the
tempratures rise dramatically.

>Since the gaseous gasoline is the limit to how finely you can atomize
>the gas, I would think that this is the most optimum way to put gas
>into the cylinders.

There are enuff brains out there who are looking at possible ways to
do more with less that if this were a viable idea it would be on cars
now or at least announced for cars in (?) years.

Stem sells30 Jul 2007 17:23
Suppose that our fuel tank was very safe, and 100% safe from
explosions.

Instead of fuel injectors, why not heat up the fuel, and pump this
high pressure gaseous vapor into the pistons?  I would like to see the
gas tank heated - kind of like a pressure cooker.  And the escaping
gas vapor gets channeled into the pistons where it's further mixed
with air.

Currently, liquid gasoline is sprayed into the pistons.  From what I
understand, the finer the mist, the better and more thorough the
combustion.

Since the gaseous gasoline is the limit to how finely you can atomize
the gas, I would think that this is the most optimum way to put gas
into the cylinders.

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