Re: UPDATE 2 with Pictures of the DIFF -- Replacing rear bearings on a Dodge pickup?
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Re: UPDATE 2 with Pictures of the DIFF -- Replacing rear bearings on a Dodge pickup?
| Tom Lawrence | 25 Sep 2006 00:01 |
> With a pair of gloves on.... Nothing worse than gear lube on paw fur.... Oh, but there is.... gear lube in your face/mouth/nostrils. Back when I was workspace-challenged, and did my vehicle work on a creeper in my driveway, I was attempting to remove a rear diff cover. I had most of the bolts removed, and a gasket scraper tapped underneath the cover. As I pulled on the gasket scraper (much the same way you would pull on a screwdriver to tighten an axle adjuster nut), I pulled myself on the creeper towards the axle, just as the silicone decided to "let go", and popped the cover up.
Not fun.... not fun at all. I smelled gear oil for the next several days.
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| Denny | 24 Sep 2006 23:50 |
>I would like to see how a wabbit does this? With a pair of gloves on.... Nothing worse than gear lube on paw fur....
Denny
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| azwiley1 | 24 Sep 2006 23:47 |
I would like to see how a wabbit does this?
>>>> 1. There is no bearing pre-load on the carrier bearings, only the >>>> pinion [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Denny |
| Denny | 24 Sep 2006 23:44 |
>>> 1. There is no bearing pre-load on the carrier bearings, only the pinion >>> bearing, and we aren't discussing the pinion here. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> > Tom, how do you get 80# of torque with a phillips screwdriver? Put a pipewrench on the shank???? <BG> There is a 'special' tool to turn the adjusters. Think of a piece of pipe with the appropriate (sp) sized nut welded on one end to fit the adjuster and a nut on the other end to fit whatever socket you desire. You insert the tool in place of the axle shaft to turn the adjuster. Or just pry the hell out of the adjuster with a screwdriver..
Denny
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| beekeep | 24 Sep 2006 23:30 |
>> 1. There is no bearing pre-load on the carrier bearings, only the pinion >> bearing, and we aren't discussing the pinion here. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >issue. No need to pollute other groups - something I wish others would >recognize) Tom, how do you get 80# of torque with a phillips screwdriver?
beekeep
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| Tom Lawrence | 24 Sep 2006 23:05 |
> 1. There is no bearing pre-load on the carrier bearings, only the pinion > bearing, and we aren't discussing the pinion here. There absolutely is - what do you think the function of the adjusters is? They get tightened to somewhere around 80ft.lbs. (don't remember exactly). That's putting pre-load on the carrier bearings.
All tapered roller bearings require pre-load.
(cross-post to RCM removed - this is a truck issue, not a metalworking issue. No need to pollute other groups - something I wish others would recognize)
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| Tony | 24 Sep 2006 19:35 |
1. There is no bearing pre-load on the carrier bearings, only the pinion bearing, and we aren't discussing the pinion here.
2. If Iggy takes the ring bear backlash now it may be an invalid reading since the side adjusters have moved, throwing the ring gear out of adjustment.
Techincally, the backlash value is engraved on the ring gear. But for practical purposes anything from .006 to .008 should be fine.
Tony
> > After you clean everything out and check for damage, you re-install the ring > > gear/carrier. You'll need a dial indicator with a magnetic base or some [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > When he reassembles and sets backlash and bearing preload, he > needs to set the backlash to what he measured originally. |
| aarcuda69062 | 24 Sep 2006 04:10 |
> After you clean everything out and check for damage, you re-install the ring > gear/carrier. You'll need a dial indicator with a magnetic base or some > fixture to hold the indicator against one of the teeth on the ring gear, and > rock the gear. Tighten the side adjusters until you get around .007" > backlash. .007 is fine if you're setting up a new gear set. If he's reusing the old gear set, he needs to measure backlash -before- anything is disturbed or disassembled. When he reassembles and sets backlash and bearing preload, he needs to set the backlash to what he measured originally.
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| Tony | 24 Sep 2006 03:06 |
After you clean everything out and check for damage, you re-install the ring gear/carrier. You'll need a dial indicator with a magnetic base or some fixture to hold the indicator against one of the teeth on the ring gear, and rock the gear. Tighten the side adjusters until you get around .007" backlash. I use a phillips screwdriver, placed in the adjustment hole of the casting and pry against one of the holes in the side adjuster, tightening until snug.
Then replace your adjuster locks.
Tony
> >I decided to take pictures as I go along. See > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > beekeep |
| beekeep | 23 Sep 2006 19:29 |
>I decided to take pictures as I go along. See > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >i Really hard to say just looking at the pictures but it looks like the drivers side adjuster keeper is broken off. The gears don't look bad but the backlash should be checked and some prussen sp? blue used to verify the contact area. You're going to need a special tool for setting the torque on the adjusters. You have to do it with the axles removed. The tool is simple enough to make. A nut welded on one end of 2' of 1/2" all thread and a hexhead pipe bushing welded on the other end. The right size hexhead has to be selected to fit into the adjuster. You might as well replace the wheel bearings and seals while you have it apart. Don't forget to check the backlash every time you change the adjusters and after you torque every thing down. Make up a jig to hold the dial indicator that bolts to the case using one of the cover bolt holes.
beekeep
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| Ignoramus937 | 23 Sep 2006 16:11 |
I decided to take pictures as I go along. See
http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Automotive/Drivetrain-Noise-In-Dodge-RAM-1500-Pickup/
Some findings as I opened up the differential.
1. It is full of gear oil. (means my oil change 2 years ago was successful)
2. On the bottom there is some amount of of, like, 100 grit metal dust, settled down.
3. There was one foreign object on the bottom, see
http://tinyurl.com/zr8zg
4. The gears and such, do not seem to have any unusual damage.
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