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Re: Fuel Pressure, Rail Pressure Gauges

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Re: Fuel Pressure, Rail Pressure Gauges

Roy31 May 2007 02:28
>>> Mounting will be a 3 pod dash mount.  I want a tranny temp, pyro and I
>>> thought a fuel pressure gauge.  However, the guy doing the install feels
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> Hummmph!!  Only 7 gauges!!??  I have eight!!  The seven you mentioned plus
> the heated seat temp gauge!!

I'm not even going to venture a guess where ya plug that one in.
<VBG>

Roy
> Pantywaist!!
>
> ;^)
>
> Mike

Mike Simmons31 May 2007 01:35
>> Mounting will be a 3 pod dash mount.  I want a tranny temp, pyro and I
>> thought a fuel pressure gauge.  However, the guy doing the install feels
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> oil pressure, and water temp (needed to fill the last hole, and I never
> trust the factory idiot lights in the shape of gauges).

Hummmph!!  Only 7 gauges!!??  I have eight!!  The seven you mentioned plus
the heated seat temp gauge!!

Pantywaist!!

;^)

Mike

Tom Lawrence30 May 2007 17:37
> Mounting will be a 3 pod dash mount.  I want a tranny temp, pyro and I
> thought a fuel pressure gauge.  However, the guy doing the install feels
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> I thought about a boost gauge, but can't really think of what that gauge
> gives me that I can't tell without it.

First, while it's true the 3rd gen trucks' lift pumps were more reliable
than previous years, and the CP3 pump is much more tolerant of lower fuel
pressures, DC felt that the lift pump was still enough of an issue that they
re-designed the low-pressure side of the fuel system, and re-located the
fuel pump inside the tank.

There have still been reports of lift pumps failing, even on the 3rd gen
trucks.  While this doesn't automatically trash the injection pump like it
used to in the VP44 days, it's still not a good thing for the CP3.  Yes, the
CP3 has it's own small gerotor lift pump built in, which in other
applications draws straight from a fuel source (no aux. lift pump), but
that's just it - it's not trying to suck fuel through a locked-up electric
lift pump in those applications.

IMO, a fuel pressure gauge is still useful.  I use mine all the time to
judge when it's time to change fuel filters (I notice the drop-off in
pressure, meaning the filter's getting more loaded up with gunk).

A rail pressure gauge is really just a "gee-whiz" kind of gauge, unless
you're planning on playing around with your fuel pressure to get more power
out of the engine.  That's a whole 'nother story, then - and in that case,
yes, a rail pressure gauge could be useful.  I, personally, am against
cranking up fuel pressure much beyond stock (the pictures I've seen of worn
injectors sold me on that one).  I currently have an Edge EZ box hooked up,
that I run on level 1 (mildest setting), just to give a little more fuel way
down low.

As for the boost gauge, again - not all that useful if you're running a
stock truck.  It can be helpful in diagnosing problems (for instance, a
blown, or even leaking,  intercooler boot is going to be easily noticable on
your boost gauge).

For reference, I currently run 7 gauges - pre-and-post-turbo EGT's
(pre-turbo being read by my TST box), boost, fuel pressure, tranny temp, oil
pressure, and water temp (needed to fill the last hole, and I never trust
the factory idiot lights in the shape of gauges).

Craig Christian30 May 2007 17:13
Need a second opinion:

I am having Pricol Optix gauges installed on my 2004 Ram, CTD in the
next few weeks.  I like the Optix gauges because they match the OEM dash.

http://www.danininc.com/opticdetail22.html

Mounting will be a 3 pod dash mount.  I want a tranny temp, pyro and I
thought a fuel pressure gauge.  However, the guy doing the install feels
that I would be better served with a rail pressure gauge since the pump
issue in my model Ram is no longer an issue at all.

Would like opinions ...

I thought about a boost gauge, but can't really think of what that gauge
gives me that I can't tell without it.

TIA.
Craig C.

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