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Re: Can someone explain Dodge Service Dept's to me...
| clare at snyder.on.ca | 10 May 2007 21:02 |
Federal Emissions Coverage: Components under the federal emission defect warranty are covered for 36 months/36,000 miles and specified major emission control components are covered for 8 years/80,000 miles. Specified major emission control components under emission performance warranty are also covered for 8 years/80,000 miles. In addition, emission performance warranty is applicable for 24 months/24,000 miles in states and local jurisdictions that require a periodic EPA-approved inspection and maintenance program.
Also:
The Hidden Warranty (and secret Chrysler warranties) The universal "hidden warranty"Every car sold in the United States comes with a warranty you may not be aware of. It covers a variety of components for five years or 50,000 miles. Newer cars are be covered by an even longer warranty on selected components, such as the computer and catalytic converter. This is the "emissions warranty," designed to ensure that American cars do not pollute as badly as they otherwise would. It places the burden of emission system reliability on the automaker, so they have to find ways to make the car stay "clean" for as long as they can, or pay to fix it. There are actually longer warranties available for many cars depending on the year. Check your manual or the DOT.
Buying a new car? You don't need to get an extended warranty from the dealer; click here for another extended warranty source. (Allpar benefits from your choice.) Check your warranty booklet for details. 1993 models, for example, covered not just the obvious emissions-related items, but also the coil, fuel injection, spark plugs, speed and temperature sensors, throttle body, turbocharger, even secondary ignition wires. (Some of these items are only covered to the first replacement interval - e.g. spark plugs are covered until 30,000 miles or so). Catalytic converters on vehicles built after 1995 are warranted for eight years or 80,000 miles.
If your dealer gives you trouble - some claim ignorance and refuse to believe the booklet that comes with the car! - try calling Chrysler at 800 992 1997. If that fails, or for more information than you get with your car, write to:
Director, Field Operation and Support Division (6406J) EPA 401 M Street Southwest Washington, DC 20460
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| Tom Rogers | 10 May 2007 16:49 |
It's $100.00 at Dodge dealers, or anywhere for that reason.
> Check your deductable. I believe, and I could be wrong, that deductable > is $50 at Chrysler/Dodge dealership and $100 elsewhere. Mine is that way [quoted text clipped - 134 lines] >>>> >>>> -TRogers |
| Abby.Normal | 10 May 2007 00:43 |
Check your deductable. I believe, and I could be wrong, that deductable is $50 at Chrysler/Dodge dealership and $100 elsewhere. Mine is that way anyhow.
>>> I took my car in for 3 issues... >>> [quoted text clipped - 122 lines] >>> >>> -TRogers |
| Tom Rogers | 09 May 2007 23:48 |
>> I took my car in for 3 issues... >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > fixed. > You DONT replace a part just because there is a code!!!! I didn't ask them to replace it! All I asked them to do was to physically check the EGR Valve to make sure it was working ok. That's it - period. They did not, because there was no code at the time.
>> 2) My car has been hesitating, lurching, bucking, whatever you want to > call [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > on it!!! if you spray water and see them arcing there is a > problem!!!!!!!!!!!! Your regular mechanic needs to be replaced!!!! This problem did NOT exist when the plugs and wires were changed out. The car IS going back to them tomorrow, but the EGR problem came up BEFORE the plugs and wires were changed. AND the regular mechanic used the OEM parts at a lower price than what a dealer would charge for them.
>> 3) My car clunks when I shift into a gear, and when I take off - my > regular [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > SO WHY DIDNT YOUR MECHANIC FIX THE PROBLEM??? Damn stop Crying!!!! Because I have an extended warranty - Chrysler Added Care Plus - that will cover this crap. Why pay much more than you have to? I have a $100.00 deductible, that is a heck of a lot better than $750.00 or so to tear apart the transmission.
I have a right to voice my opinion in a public forum such as this. You have a problem with my rant because you are a dealer tech, but it's not directed at you, so take it easy!
>> Why are dealer service dept's like this? Why don't they fix your car when >> you take it to them? I'm so sick of dealers. I have an extended warranty [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > give a year make or model and expect to get answers. get a life or buy a > Ford!! So I'm an "idiot" because a Dodge dealer service dept did not do their job right and I chose to rant about it on a public forum? I didn't name names either. If it makes you feel better to resort to name calling, feel free - I have broad shoulders. Whatever floats your boat.
Look, I did NOT post my year/make/model because I DON'T want someone on here to tell me what is/might be wrong. I just want to know why you take a car to a dealer, tell them specifically what the problem(s) are, just ask them to check it out and PHYSICALLY see if the EGR is ok, PHYSICALLY see that the Torque Converter is ok, PHYSICALLY see that the CV joints are ok. But it seems like, if there is no computer code, there's no problem.
And that's MY problem. I asked them to PHYSICALLY check it out, you know, get their hands dirty, but they refused because there is no computer code.
Stop taking offense because you work for a dealer. This is NOT aimed at Glenn Beasley, but the dealer service centers that I have been to (2 of them). They charge WAY too much for labor, over-price all their parts, and then don't troubleshoot all the issues fully or correctly.
If I did my job this way, I would not have a job.
> Glenn Beasley > Chrysler Tech. at the dealer!! > >> Ticked off bad, >> >> -TRogers |
| maxpower | 09 May 2007 21:30 |
> I took my car in for 3 issues... > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > AutoZone tool is worthless, just so they can charge $70.00 to connect > theirs, but it showed the exact same code as the ignition method. And if they would have replaced the EGR valve and if it didnt fix it you would be right back at the dealer complaining because your car wasnt fixed. You DONT replace a part just because there is a code!!!!
> 2) My car has been hesitating, lurching, bucking, whatever you want to call > it, while maintaining a constant speed. They said they sprayed water on the > plug wires and they are arcing to ground. Need to replace the wires AND the > plugs they said! I Just had the plugs and wires changed 6 weeks ago! Top of > the line stuff too. But instead of saying to replace the wires only, they > said the plugs too! Why? My regular mechanic said they are full of BS. Why the hell dont you take it back to the place that put the plugs and wires on it!!! if you spray water and see them arcing there is a problem!!!!!!!!!!!! Your regular mechanic needs to be replaced!!!!
> 3) My car clunks when I shift into a gear, and when I take off - my regular > mechanic says Torque Converter and it's killing the CV Joints. I told them [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Convert and CV joints out - most likely because there was no computer code > for them. SO WHY DIDNT YOUR MECHANIC FIX THE PROBLEM??? Damn stop Crying!!!!
> Why are dealer service dept's like this? Why don't they fix your car when > you take it to them? I'm so sick of dealers. I have an extended warranty and > my guess is that they want out of it as cheaply as they can, wait till the > warranty is over, then fix the car for 2-3x what a regular mechanic will > charge you. I'm sick of it - can someone explain to me why this is? I can explain it to you and i have never told anyone this but your an Idiot!!! you post a question here, or should I say you cry on here , dont give a year make or model and expect to get answers. get a life or buy a Ford!!
Glenn Beasley Chrysler Tech. at the dealer!!
> Ticked off bad, > > -TRogers |
| Tom Rogers | 09 May 2007 19:30 |
I took my car in for 3 issues...
1) P0404 code (EGR Valve stuck) on the odometer when I turn the key on-off-on-off-on, except when I took it into the dealer to have them check it out, they wouldn't even look at the EGR Valve because the code was no longer in the computer. I told them I saw the code on the odometer display using this method AND by using a scan tool from AutoZone. They told me the AutoZone tool is worthless, just so they can charge $70.00 to connect theirs, but it showed the exact same code as the ignition method.
2) My car has been hesitating, lurching, bucking, whatever you want to call it, while maintaining a constant speed. They said they sprayed water on the plug wires and they are arcing to ground. Need to replace the wires AND the plugs they said! I Just had the plugs and wires changed 6 weeks ago! Top of the line stuff too. But instead of saying to replace the wires only, they said the plugs too! Why? My regular mechanic said they are full of BS.
3) My car clunks when I shift into a gear, and when I take off - my regular mechanic says Torque Converter and it's killing the CV Joints. I told them this, they said they could not duplicate the issue so they did nothing! I picked my car up from the dealer and when i put it in gear and took off - SAME CLUNKING sounds! What the heck? They wouldn't even check the Torque Convert and CV joints out - most likely because there was no computer code for them.
Why are dealer service dept's like this? Why don't they fix your car when you take it to them? I'm so sick of dealers. I have an extended warranty and my guess is that they want out of it as cheaply as they can, wait till the warranty is over, then fix the car for 2-3x what a regular mechanic will charge you. I'm sick of it - can someone explain to me why this is?
Ticked off bad,
-TRogers
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