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Re: Punto 1.2 Active Sport uneven idle

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Re: Punto 1.2 Active Sport uneven idle

Nick /////24 Sep 2006 10:34
Can't promise anything but it may help.  I think all Bosch / Hitachi /
Marelli are self adaptive and can become unsettled.  Running the procedure
will not do any harm.

If your sporting is single point injection then there is another visible
fuel check you can make.  Remove the air filter so you can see directly into
the throttle body.  Start the car and look into the top of the throttle
body.  You should see mists of fuel being injected into the body.  Now
operate the trottle and the fuel should flow more and still be well misted /
spray and not jet like.  Difficult to judge but play a little reving and
watching.

You can also us a ver small dental mirror to inspect the injector to see  if
you can see any fuel resin deposits on/around the injector head.

If you are in any doubt the run some injector cleaner through the system.

Nick /////
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> Paul

Paul Halliday23 Sep 2006 20:57
> The other possible cause is that the ECU which is self adaptive has got
> itself  all confused and needs retraining.
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> 5) Release throttle and allow engine to idle for 1 or 2 minutes
> 6) Switch off

Excuse me for jumping in a hijacking this ... Does this procedure apply to
the MK1 Sporting, too?

Our second Sporting is nothing like as quick as our first one. I have
disconnected the battery for 15 minutes and reconnected, but there's still
an awful flat spot in all gears and it _feels_ like the flat spot ends when
just lifting off full throttle, but if the throttle is only opened that far
(to just near open throttle) it's still very poor. I had wondered if the ECU
had got confused and was pretty much only allowing a very narrow set of
fuelling instructions.

Paul

Nick /////23 Sep 2006 19:09
Totally remove the throttle cable so the throttle can be freely rotated by
hand.

Gently move end stop to end stop (especially at the nearly closed end)
feeling for any drag, snatching etc.

The other possible cause is that the ECU which is self adaptive has got
itself  all confused and needs retraining.

The sequence (from memory) is as follows:

1) Disconnect battery for 30 minutes
2) Reconnect bat.
3) Start car and allow to idle till fan cuts in 3 times
4) Rev car at a steady 3000 rpm for five minutes
5) Release throttle and allow engine to idle for 1 or 2 minutes
6) Switch off

Please report back how you  get on.

Nick /////

> My girlfirends Punto started having an erratic idle. I have changed the
> spark
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> is
> caused. Thank you

bubsy22 Sep 2006 12:18
My girlfirends Punto started having an erratic idle. I have changed the spark
plugs and air filter. Since then, the engine now holds revs after about 7
miles of driving. It either idles hunting between 800-1200 revs or holds at
1500. If it does come down to 800 it then stalls. The revs are held at 3000
when you come off throttle. I'v checked the throttle cable, lubricated it and
its not sticking. I've also cleaned the stepper motor out with WD40 hoping
that would cure it. The engine when under load is fine but when you are
feathering the throttle it runs lumpily and the car is jumpy. I took the car
to Fiat, they checked the ECU for fault codes and there was nothing stored.
They flashed ECU with an update of software and it didn't do anything to help
out. Please would someone point me in the right direction as to how this is
caused. Thank you

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