Re: 98 Windstar Intermittent Hesitation / Bucking ?
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Re: 98 Windstar Intermittent Hesitation / Bucking ?
| Tom Adkins | 09 Sep 2006 04:00 |
>>All this talk about a sticky or dirty IAC. >> What do most DIYers clean an IAC with? What is the best brand >>fuel additive to clean and keep it from getting messed up? >>Thanks… Fuel additive won't help the IAC. At this point there is no fuel. The IAC meters air only. It picks up carbon from crankcase vapors and errant exhaust gases in the intake manifold. You "can" clean it by removing it and dousing the pintle and seat with carb cleaner a few times. Cleaning a sticky IAC is a 33/33/33 proposition. Sometimes it works great, sometimes only for a little while, sometimes it doesn't work at all. It's usually best to bite the bullet and replace it with a new one, unless you have time to kill cleaning it and then replacing it later. The sticking is usually caused by wear in the pintle shaft and bushing.
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| Sharon K. Cooke | 04 Sep 2006 19:21 |
> snip > >>>No codes? It sounds like the IAC valve is dirty/worn. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > fuel additive to clean and keep it from getting messed up? > Thanks
See: http://www.lincolnsonline.com/tech/00017.html
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| TP | 04 Sep 2006 18:53 |
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>>>No codes? It sounds like the IAC valve is dirty/worn. >> >>Doesn't the IAC only deal with engine idle? All this talk about a sticky or dirty IAC. What do most DIYers clean an IAC with? What is the best brand fuel additive to clean and keep it from getting messed up? Thanks…
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| Sharon K. Cooke | 04 Sep 2006 18:20 |
> >>>> I have a 98 Windstar 3.0 with 128k miles on it, and over the past few > >>>> months it has had a problem with hesitation and bucking. The problem [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] > even if you really thrash the engine. But other times you can be really > gentle with it and it will hesitate every time you try to speed up. The IAC valve has SOME engine control up to about 2K RPM. It really does sound as if yours is sticking. The IACV is also one of the things that OBD-II won't detect with a direct code.
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| Instant Arcade | 04 Sep 2006 17:51 |
>>>> I have a 98 Windstar 3.0 with 128k miles on it, and over the past few >>>> months it has had a problem with hesitation and bucking. The problem [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > No codes? It sounds like the IAC valve is dirty/worn. Doesn't the IAC only deal with engine idle?
My problem is while accelerating, when the engine is under load. Just after shifting is most common, also when pulling away from a stop it happens a lot too. Less common but still occurring is when pulling up a hill or accelerating on the highway. Maybe twice in the past 6 months I've had a rough idle for a few seconds, but that's all.
The oddest part about the problem is that it will not occur for a while, even if you really thrash the engine. But other times you can be really gentle with it and it will hesitate every time you try to speed up.
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| Sharon K. Cooke | 04 Sep 2006 16:44 |
> >> I have a 98 Windstar 3.0 with 128k miles on it, and over the past few > >> months it has had a problem with hesitation and bucking. The problem [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > my mechanic said I needed a new MAF at great expense. Didn't improve > the problem though. I've had no other codes since. No codes? It sounds like the IAC valve is dirty/worn.
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| Instant Arcade | 04 Sep 2006 16:40 |
>> I have a 98 Windstar 3.0 with 128k miles on it, and over the past few >> months it has had a problem with hesitation and bucking. The problem [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > Are you sure there's no codes stored? There was a code a few weeks back, p0102 MAF/VAF Circuit low input. And my mechanic said I needed a new MAF at great expense. Didn't improve the problem though. I've had no other codes since.
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| Backyard Mechanic | 04 Sep 2006 04:30 |
> I have a 98 Windstar 3.0 with 128k miles on it, and over the past few > months it has had a problem with hesitation and bucking. The problem is [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > I've also had poor idling on occasion, but it's very uncommon, so may > not be related. Actually... if it's a HIGH idle, it may be related.
Sometimes ymptomatic of a bad wiring harness ground or engine to body ground.
Try doing a tug test on all engine wiring harness while it's idling, may point out a connector that's making bad contact
Are you sure there's no codes stored?
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| Instant Arcade | 01 Sep 2006 18:00 |
I have a 98 Windstar 3.0 with 128k miles on it, and over the past few months it has had a problem with hesitation and bucking. The problem is intermittent.
My mechanic has diagnosed a few things so far and a lot of money has been spent on 'repairs' but nothing he suggests fixes the problem. I've now taken it back from my mechanic and his "shotgunning" repair technique in order to try and diagnose the problem myself.
So far I've replaced the Throttle Position Sensor and the Camshaft Position Sensor, and while that seemed to fix it for a day or two, the problem came back. (It's intermittent nature means it can run fine for days).
There seems to be no rhyme or reason to the hesitation, it can happen when you're pulling away gently, or when you're cruising at highway speeds, or during a shift, pretty much any time. Turning overdrive off, or keeping the transmission in 1st or 2nd makes no difference. Also you can drive it really hard sometimes without the problem manifesting at all. Often I'll drive it hard 10 miles to work and it's fine, then it will act up on the way home with about 3 miles to go.
As good as I can tell it feels like the engine is cutting power to the injectors or plugs all at the same time. And the loss of power can last from a fraction of a second to a whole second before it recovers. Sometimes you just feel a bit of spluttering as though only a single injector or plug isn't firing. I thought it might be a transmission problem, but I'd imagine that the revs would climb while the transmission slips, and that's not happening.
I've also had poor idling on occasion, but it's very uncommon, so may not be related.
Any ideas what to try next?
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