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Re: Cylinder Missfire

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Re: Cylinder Missfire

George Orwell28 Oct 2006 21:58
Integrated EFI systems are the sh.ts, aren't they?  Who decided on black
boxes running fuel injection, ignition, and charging systems with wires and
sensors running all over under the hood and dash?  That's stupid.  In the
old days, cars were easy to fix.  Just ask your grandpa.  His cars didn't
have a single CPU in them and they still got him from point A to point B
just as good as your late model heap, when it runs.

So here's how to get your late model F-O-R-D fixed without having to keep
paying over and over again while the incompetents replace parts ad lib
until they accidently strike upon the problem, if ever.

When you take your monstrosity to the Ford Dealer, have the work order
written:  "To replace  part(s) x and y to fix problem of cylinder
misfiring, for $$."  If he's not so cock sure what your problem is and
wants to make a preliminary diagnosis for a fee, that's okay.  "To
diagnosis the problem of cylinder misfiring, for $$"  That way, when they
replace x and y to "fix your problem" and you still have the misfire when
they're done, they have to fix it again for FREE, taking out x and y and
putting back in your old parts if possible.  And if its not, the parts are
free and they keep having to fix it until its fixed or your money totally
refunded.  Don't feel sorry for the dealer.  He's not sorry you paid six
times and its not fixed yet.  If he cries on your shoulder, tell him its
Ford's fault for making their cars non-fixable therefore he should vent his
complaints to the Corporation, not to you the poor sucker who bought this
junker.

300zx28 Oct 2006 02:22
Let me say hi and also thank everyone in advance for any help given.
Here is the problem.

My father has a 2000 ford taurus.  Car never gave him any problems.
Out of nowhere he now gets a cylinder missfire in cylinger six.  That
is the error given by the computer.  Not that simple though, there is
more.  The car runs fine until it warms up.  When the car is idle, in
either park, neutral, or drive, it starts to chug.  The check engine
light flashes.  As soon as start to move again, the car struggles to
accelerate, but once your moving, all is well again, the car runs
perfectly fine.  Check engine light stays on steady now, until you
stop again, and the cycle repeats.  Just a little helpful information.
The car has been to three different shops, including ford themselves.
The plugs, wires, coils, fuel rail, fuel injector computer and so on
have all been replaced.  The engine was opened up, and the cylinder is
fine, nothing wrong mechanically.  This is absolutely 100 percent an
electrical problem.  So with this said, does anybody know what the
heck this could be?....Ask me questions if you want any more
information.  

With all that information, I will now tell you the the car had an
aftermarket remote car starter installed by a reputable guy that has
installed stuff for a dozen people i know.  The problem started about
one to two months after that.

thanks again
Eric

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