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Re: 2007 Camry is an Accord Killer

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Re: 2007 Camry is an Accord Killer

Howard Lester30 Aug 2006 17:43
>> I had a blue '82 Civic sedan: my first Honda. (There was a wide choice of
>> colors in '82..) So I "know" your car. I'm on my fourth Honda now. (Maybe
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>> I use my pocket Nikon 3200 camera for e-mailing snapshots; otherwise it's
>> film all the way.

> The choice in colors for Civic hatchbacks were either red or blue but I
> suspect the sedans had a wider choice.  Mine is the faded (badly) red.
> It might get new paint depending on how it behaves in the months ahead.

Red? My only choice (1982) was blue, brown, or silver.

> OTOH, Digital is the way for me these days.  I do have a partially
> exposed roll in the Leica as I am "testing" a new to me lens (1.5
> Summarit) that I bought on eBay last year.  I really oughta get that
> done, eh?

Um, yeah.  :-)   Email me direct when you get the results.

Howard

Grumpy AuContraire30 Aug 2006 15:31
> > My ol' '83 Civic hatchback is perfect for photo gear and shortly I
> > expect to do a series of nighttime neon shots.  I still use an old
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> I use my pocket Nikon 3200 camera for e-mailing snapshots; otherwise it's
> film all the way.

The choice in colors for Civic hatchbacks were either red or blue but I
suspect the sedans had a wider choice.  Mine is the faded (badly) red.
It might get new paint depending on how it behaves in the months ahead.

OTOH, Digital is the way for me these days.  I do have a partially
exposed roll in the Leica as I am "testing" a new to me lens (1.5
Summarit) that I bought on eBay last year.  I really oughta get that
done, eh?

JT

Howard Lester30 Aug 2006 02:31
> My ol' '83 Civic hatchback is perfect for photo gear and shortly I
> expect to do a series of nighttime neon shots.  I still use an old
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> Honda is now entering its fourth month since I brought it back to life
> after a 12+ year snooze.  Sure love the way it passes gas stations!

I had a blue '82 Civic sedan: my first Honda. (There was a wide choice of
colors in '82..) So I "know" your car. I'm on my fourth Honda now. (Maybe I
stayed with Honda because of the dealership and how well the service
department takes care of "me" and my car, I don't know.) Digitally speaking,
I use my pocket Nikon 3200 camera for e-mailing snapshots; otherwise it's
film all the way.

Grumpy AuContraire30 Aug 2006 01:42
> > M4 was perhaps the pinnacle of the M series line prior to having
> > electronic gadgetry added.  M4 provided parallax correction for four
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> Prior to that I was a Nikon man. Leica was out of my range.... I love the
> results of 4x5, and my Accord has run great since day 1.

My ol' '83 Civic hatchback is perfect for photo gear and shortly I
expect to do a series of nighttime neon shots.  I still use an old
Huskie tripod for long exposures.  BTW, a handy thing to carry along is
one of those small three step ladders for a better vantage.

Most of my snapshot stuff is done with either a Panasonic FZ-10 or my
earlier Olympus D-460.  The Olympus is the most forgiving but the
Panasonic with the Leica zoom lens is more versatile.  12X is too much
zoom though as I wish that it was more in the range of 5 or 6X.

Honda is now entering its fourth month since I brought it back to life
after a 12+ year snooze.  Sure love the way it passes gas stations!

JT

Howard Lester29 Aug 2006 17:14
> M4 was perhaps the pinnacle of the M series line prior to having
> electronic gadgetry added.  M4 provided parallax correction for four
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> famed M3.  I seldom use it these days due to digital photography but if
> I need to get serious about high quality, out it comes!

Trying to stay on topic, my '04 Accord carries a backpack loaded with a 4x5,
2 lenses, tripod....  :-)  That's when I get serious about high quality!
Prior to that I was a Nikon man. Leica was out of my range.... I love the
results of 4x5, and my Accord has run great since day 1.

Grumpy AuContraire29 Aug 2006 06:59
>  >> Leica made cars?  :-)
>
> > Nope but they sure make fine cameras...
>
> I read the M4 was pretty good...

M4 was perhaps the pinnacle of the M series line prior to having
electronic gadgetry added.  M4 provided parallax correction for four
focal length lenses from 35mm to 135mm, fast film loading and rewind.

My M2 provides for three lenses and actually was introduced after the
famed M3.  I seldom use it these days due to digital photography but if
I need to get serious about high quality, out it comes!

JT

Howard Lester29 Aug 2006 03:07
>> Leica made cars?  :-)

> Nope but they sure make fine cameras...

I read the M4 was pretty good...

Grumpy AuContraire29 Aug 2006 00:45
> >> The front of the new Camry reminds me a of a Studebaker.
> >
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>
> Leica made cars?  :-)

Nope but they sure make fine cameras...

JT

Howard Lester28 Aug 2006 18:35
>> The front of the new Camry reminds me a of a Studebaker.
>
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>
> JT

Don't know - something from the 50's with the wraparound read windows.

Leica made cars?  :-)

> 1931 Studebaker President State Coupe (Q4)
> 1955 Studebaker President State Coupe
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> 1983 Honda Civic FE
> 1956 Leica M2

Grumpy AuContraire28 Aug 2006 17:28
> > And the
> > way the Camry "looks" is subject to each individual driver's opinion. IMO
> > it's ugly. And I don't see your Camry taking on my Hayabusa any time soon
> > in _any_ aspect.
>
> The front of the new Camry reminds me a of a Studebaker.

What model?

Some Kia's had an early hawk look alike grille.

JT

1931 Studebaker President State Coupe (Q4)
1955 Studebaker President State Coupe
1955 Studebaker President State Sedan - Almost done Daily Driver
1956 Studebaker Power Hawk - Long Time Fun Car - (Will be burial
container)
1964 Studebaker Champ P/U T-6 Long Bed - Back Up Daily driver
1983 Honda Civic FE
1956 Leica M2

Howard Lester28 Aug 2006 15:42
> And the
> way the Camry "looks" is subject to each individual driver's opinion. IMO
> it's ugly. And I don't see your Camry taking on my Hayabusa any time soon
> in _any_ aspect.

The front of the new Camry reminds me a of a Studebaker.

Kam27 Aug 2006 03:44
jmattis@attglobal.net wrote in news:1136995972.916794.224990
@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

> I wanted to see how Toyota dropped the Avalon 3.5 liter V6 into the
> all-new 2007 Camry.  The horsepower is down a notch, but the Cary
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> Honda engineers must be frantic.  I hate to say it, but the new Camry
> somehow makes my '04 Accord look dowdy.

In actuality, an old CRX, Civic or Del Sol could be cheaply modded to
attain more horsepower, faster acceleration, better gas milage and better
handling characteristics for tens of thousands less than a 2007 Camry.
And if you're a sucker for sound, dynamat isn't that expensive. And the
way the Camry "looks" is subject to each individual driver's opinion. IMO
it's ugly. And I don't see your Camry taking on my Hayabusa any time soon
in _any_ aspect.

jmattis@attglobal.net11 Jan 2006 16:12
I wanted to see how Toyota dropped the Avalon 3.5 liter V6 into the
all-new 2007 Camry.  The horsepower is down a notch, but the Cary
probably is making do with regular gas, unlike the Avalon.

The bigger news is how elegant the Camry looks -- it's a cross between
the G35 and the TL.  Could just as easily have been called a Lexus.

A few photos are on the toyota.com website.  The official roll-out is
in March.

Honda engineers must be frantic.  I hate to say it, but the new Camry
somehow makes my '04 Accord look dowdy.

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