Hello,
I just had a good Honda buying experience, so I figured I'd share with you. In essence, I think the reason that I had a good buy was a combined result of the internet shopping tactic and happening to getting in touch online with a salesperson with a particular personal sales policy.
First, define some variables here. X="published" invoice price of my model without any additional options including destination charge. "Published" means that I got this number from edmunds.com or carsdirect.com. Y=Tax, tag, registration, documentation fees Z=manufacturer-to-dealer cash incentive per sale of my model (happens to be available for the month of my purchase) All numbers below are approximate within $100.
At the beginning of the month, I emailed 6 dealers asking for their best out-the-door price for my model. In the emails, I made clear that I am shopping online and comparing several dealers and "undecided" about the method of payment. The responses were (in the order of descending price). The breakdowns are my interpretations.
Dealer 1: (X+$900)+Y Dealer 2: (X+$600)+Y --> In about a week after the first quote, this dealer corrected their quote to X+Y. I think they decided to pass $600 out of Z to me. Dealer 3: Car price is X+$100 Dealer 4, 5: X+Y Dealer 6: Car price is X-Z-$200
Dealers 3, 6 did not give me the exact out-the-door price. The price from Dealer 6 was too low and therefore I guessed their car price does not include destination charge. I asked about it, but there was no definite answer from them.
After waiting for three weeks, I sent another email to dealers 2, 4, and 6 asking for their final best out-the-door price. (I did not any method of transportation to dealer 5, so I gave that place up.) In the email, I made it clear that I am writing one check in full amount of the out-the-door price and I will be walking in to the dealership with the lowest price and simply pay and pick up. I also gave my willing price in the email saying that I am willing to spend X-Z+Y. The final responses were
Dealer 2: X+Y Dealer 4: (X-Z+$100)+Y Dealer 6: (X-Z-$200)+Y
The interesting part is that dealer 6 could just have accepted my price, but did not and stuck to its original quote, which turns out to include destination charge. At this point, the dealer - no, the salesperson - got my trust (sort of) and my business. A couple of days later, I went to dealer 6, wrote a check for the quoted price, and drove one home. The salesperson said he gives relatively aggressive prices to sell many vehicles under his name.
Well, I bought an Accord LX sedan Special Edition. It is interesting to me that my final price is slightly lower than the out-the-door prices projected from those 'fair values' for a new Civic EX sedan. :) Hmmm. It could be due to that Civics are hot-selling, but Accords are not so... Anyways.
The good part for me about internet buying was that I only gave them my email address and no phone numbers whatsoever, so they could not call me trying to negotiate over the phone or make me come to their place first. I just don't like haggling in any real-time fashion. I could take time to think over their quotes and reply at my convenient time in the privacy of my place.
Finally, this purchase was made in the US. Thanks.
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