On Oct 19, 10:30 am, "Kenneth J. Harris" <khar...@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
wrote:

But the Pilot, like other cross-overs, is built on a car platform and
is really just a modified minivan. Wussy.

Nissan and Toyota offer truck-based SUVs if the Jeeps aren't your cup
of tea. Go for V8 versions as any real man knows that more is better.

If you *NEED* a vehicle to support your contention that you are a man,
well, no vehicle is gonna solve your problems other than a Ferrari.

1. I've owned 2 jeeps, and yes they definitely are unreliable.  Not
major components but small parts and electrical problems that were
easily fixed but still a pain.  Stay away from them.  I've looked at the
CRV--nice but not quite big enough for my needs but I wouldn't hesitate
to buy one if it fit my needs.  Now for the Pilot.  Good vehicle, but
the 2008 is identical to the 2007 and will stop being produce in
February(the 2009 will come out in March).  So, at least in my area, the
dealers are offering what I consider to be great prices to get them
moving out.  Ads from all the Honda dealers in my area every week for
the Pilot VP for $27,495 + or minus a bit.  To me this is a good deal.

Ken

I have no problems getting one of the CRV's I am just kind of wondering why
it is such a big womans car versus the Accord and Civic which is more mixed.
Maybe I will get the CRV, we'll see. Maybe the CRV 4WD LX. I like those.

But seriously is the jeep that unreliable?

Grow a set and drive whatever the hell you want.

Hello,

I like the CRV because it has what I am looking for in a car: versatility,
comfort, space, safety, comforts and 4WD. To date I am yet to see a guy
driving one (especially the new ones) anywhere! I don't really want to be
driving a car that is labeled as a womans car. When I went to the dealer I
talked to a salesman about my interest in the CRV. The first thing he asked
was if I had kids, when I said no, he seemed surprised that I would want the
CRV and tried to get me interested in the Pilots. Unfortunately I don't have
30-36k to spend on an suv.

Now I am thinking about the possibility of getting a Jeep Patriot or Jeep
Wrangler, just don't know what the reliability is like. I know those are
considered more men's cars than the CRV. Its not that this is a big issue,
but its a little odd that only women seem to drive them. Same with the RAV4
for that matter.

I'm looking to be in the 19-24k range in the next car so I thought either of
the Jeeps would be in this range and offer some kinds of comfort and 4WD
ability.

So does anyone know anything about the Jeeps from personal experience?

Thanks,
Al