Re: Accord coupe - washer fluid container
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Re: Accord coupe - washer fluid container
| Tegger | 23 Jan 2008 01:15 |
> Like I said as well..I agree with you, and would love the warning > option for it as well like on Canadian models. You may not even have the wiring for it. Certainly you don't have the dash light.
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| Polfus | 21 Jan 2008 17:17 |
>> NOTHING will be more reliable than checking the reservoir with your own >> eyes regularly. >> >> Its free, fool-proof, and void of any chance of electrical malfunction. > > It is probably funny to you, I wan't trying to be funny, just honest..really...checking visually regularly is just what I do...everyone's different :)
> but me presonally - I would > trust more heartless machine and an electronic circuit > than my very unreliable human memory. Good point...everyone's different as I said, and perhaps checking regularly isn't an option, especially if you don't even like to get out of your car when its so cold and rainy...
> That same thinking is used to install headlights on chime > when you open the driver door - exactly because humans [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > bother you, because you will check the fluid level every > day and top it off every time you plan to drive, right? :-) Oh no....of course not !
Like I said as well..I agree with you, and would love the warning option for it as well like on Canadian models.
Peace, Polfus
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| Pszemol | 21 Jan 2008 14:14 |
>> But in the case of the low fluid warning lamps it is no >> issue, because if the warning system fails you will not [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Its free, fool-proof, and void of any chance of electrical malfunction. It is probably funny to you, but me presonally - I would trust more heartless machine and an electronic circuit than my very unreliable human memory.
That same thinking is used to install headlights on chime when you open the driver door - exactly because humans tend to be forgetful. And exactly as with the headlights chime circuit, low washer fluid light ADDS a step to the system and does not prevent you from checking the fluid level in a more traditional way with a dipstick, if you want.
So for me - big YES for the warning light, it will never bother you, because you will check the fluid level every day and top it off every time you plan to drive, right? :-)
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| Polfus | 19 Jan 2008 20:27 |
> But in the case of the low fluid warning lamps it is no > issue, because if the warning system fails you will not > have anything worse than a system without warning system. > So if you have to choose a system with no warning light > and a system with a warning light which might get wrong > some day I would take the "risk" of having this convenience. NOTHING will be more reliable than checking the reservoir with your own eyes regularly.
Its free, fool-proof, and void of any chance of electrical malfunction.
Peace, Polfus
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| Pszemol | 18 Jan 2008 17:17 |
>> Good design in my opinion would be low fluid warning light >> on the dashboard and reservoir big enough to hold FULL [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Same deal with newer cars. So much of the electronics are > bells and whistles or break too often. Yes, but taking your argument you should use abacus instead of your computer to do all the calculations ;-)
I generally agree with you that fancy electronics add components to the system, and in consequence we have more components, and bigger probability for a system failure due to the single component failure...
But in the case of the low fluid warning lamps it is no issue, because if the warning system fails you will not have anything worse than a system without warning system. So if you have to choose a system with no warning light and a system with a warning light which might get wrong some day I would take the "risk" of having this convenience.
To be honest I am going to find this sender unit on some Canadian autoparts site and outfit it in my USA version :-) I hope necessary harness is there to give the signal to the light on the dashboard... If successful I promisse to come back here and describe this mod for anybody wanting to do the same.
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| Elle | 18 Jan 2008 15:47 |
> Good design in my opinion would be low fluid warning light > on the dashboard and reservoir big enough to hold FULL > bottle > when the warning ligth comes on to minimalise required > mainenance. I personally am finding much of the "fancy" electronics to be more trouble than they're worth.
I am on an extended visit in a house with a heat pump with too many electronics to it. Four visits so far from the repair technician in one year. Contrast this with my own house's furnace: Four years and no problems whatsoever.
Same deal with newer cars. So much of the electronics are bells and whistles or break too often.
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| Pszemol | 17 Jan 2008 22:02 |
> If your preferred method is to suck the reservoir absolutely dry before > refilling it, thus risking being without washer fluid at some point when you [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > back in the garage for next time, then it really doesn't much matter how big > either the reservoir or the bottle is, does it? I can see you are an old fashioned guy who likes to spend time with his car and keep the garage full of funny bottles... :-)
Good design in my opinion would be low fluid warning light on the dashboard and reservoir big enough to hold FULL bottle when the warning ligth comes on to minimalise required mainenance.
The only warning I get from my accord is that the stream of water is weaker, but then I have 2-3 more attempts and it is dry. Even then it does not hold the full bottle, which is sad... :-)
Don't get me wrong, but I am comparing this accord to my old 1995 camry, which it happens had the reservoid big enought to hold the full gallon of fluid in one big gulp.
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| Paul | 17 Jan 2008 21:11 |
> For the second time I needed to refil washer fluid in > my 2004 accord coupe. I got the 1 gallon jug from the [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Would you consider it as a bad design? If your preferred method is to suck the reservoir absolutely dry before refilling it, thus risking being without washer fluid at some point when you really need it, then yes, I suppose you might consider it a bad design.
If, on the other hand, you do what a lot of people do and add fluid to the reservoir periodically before it's completely dry, and then put the bottle back in the garage for next time, then it really doesn't much matter how big either the reservoir or the bottle is, does it?
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| Pszemol | 17 Jan 2008 16:49 |
For the second time I needed to refil washer fluid in my 2004 accord coupe. I got the 1 gallon jug from the store when the washer nozzles stopped delivering fluid. Poured the bottle but before the bottle was empty the container in the car was full and overflowing. 2-3 inches of the fluid left unused in the bottle.
Is this what you get? Or my pump is not sucking all the fluid from the container?
Why would you design a car with a washer fluid container just smaller than the widely available container the fluid is sold in the stores?
Would you consider it as a bad design?
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